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My rant |
nditiz1 |
Jul 19 2017, 05:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,165 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
So as some of you know I have been searching around Maryland for my first 914. 2 weeks ago on the 4th a seller named Jim in VA, 2 hours away, had a 72 with a transplanted 2.0 in it. He only had 2 pics and little to no info on it, but did have his phone number. I saw the ad 7 hours after it was posted to craigslist for $2500. I later received an email stating it was sold. 2 days ago this pops up on eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/172783341024?_trks...utorefresh=true While the car does have issues, for $2500 Can it be all that bad? My rant is about the seller. I realize making money is nice and while everyone wants to make a quick buck it sucks to be on something I almost had. He now has it for sale at BIN $7800 or best offer. I offered him $3500 stating he would make a quick $1000. He declined. Sorry just wanted to get that off my chest. |
Cracker |
Jul 19 2017, 05:24 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
I understand your frustration but you have little reason to rant. Either you get the car or you did not - 1 minute or 7 hours - no difference really. Once someone owns an item - they can do what they want, ask what they want, burn it into the ground, etc. It is their car 100%...
Someone who did that with a 914 (and that quickly) must be well aware of the car. Not just a general flipper...is my guess. Around here - there are many who seemingly have disdain for such practices - you will have plenty of sympathy coming your way soon. Keep you head up and eyes open - the "right" car will work out and when it does - you will know it! It will make these cheesy deals fade into distant memories. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tony |
Big Len |
Jul 19 2017, 05:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,746 Joined: 16-July 13 From: Edgewood, New Mexico Member No.: 16,126 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Agree with Cracker. 7 hours into a posting an ad with a potential bargain is plenty of time for a number of people to buy the car. You're going to have to quicker.
Your feelings probably pale in comparison to how the CL original owner feels by under pricing the car. |
GaroldShaffer |
Jul 19 2017, 06:16 AM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,617 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None |
Many of time I just missed a great deal then there were many of times I found a great deal. If the CL owner was happy with $2500 and the new owner thinks he can get $7800 for it, more power to him.
I have bought many of car & parts at the "buy low, sell high" motto. To be honest I wouldn't take your offer of $3500 either. Now a real offer of $5k, then maybe. |
Cairo94507 |
Jul 19 2017, 06:41 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,654 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Uhh....we feel your pain, but that car looks like it has multiple issues. You might have dodged a bullet.
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Coondog |
Jul 19 2017, 06:41 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California |
Hang in there, I predict that 914 won't even bring 4,000 grand on Ebay.
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bdstone914 |
Jul 19 2017, 06:44 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,497 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Many of time I just missed a great deal then there were many of times I found a great deal. If the CL owner was happy with $2500 and the new owner thinks he can get $7800 for it, more power to him. I have bought many of car & parts at the "buy low, sell high" motto. To be honest I wouldn't take your offer of $3500 either. Now a real offer of $5k, then maybe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) You missed on a good deal. 72 car with a 2.0L and a side shift conversion. The new owner is asking what seem like a fair price and should sell it you what it is worth not relative to what he paid. Considering he listed on Ebay he would have considerable fees and would make no where near $1000 if he accepted your low offer. |
nditiz1 |
Jul 19 2017, 06:57 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,165 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I was offering him 3500 outside of eBay. So he would make that 1000 in full. Sucks either way.
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GeorgeRud |
Jul 19 2017, 07:14 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Many pics on this car, but none of the hellhole? Also the passenger door jamb does not look very rust-free to me. Seems funny for a longtime Porsche owner to omit this important area.
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iwanta914-6 |
Jul 19 2017, 07:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 26-June 09 From: Minnesota Member No.: 10,510 Region Association: None |
If you focus too much on finding a "deal", you're going to have cash in hand and be able react extremely quickly. It's a stressful process. You'll find that you'll waste a lot of time driving many miles only to find out that someone else got there first even though you talked to the seller and said you are on your way. Remember, these are not the "throw away" sports car anymore, they are becoming more valuable every day and you're not the only one looking for a deal.
If you have the money to invest in rustoring a 914, take that money and invest it in a car that is well sorted. A $15,000 914 is going to be cheap and able to hit the road immediately compared to a $2500 one that needs $15,000 of work and a year or two (or more) on jack stands. "Buy the best car you can afford" Is the phrase commonly stated around here and in any vintage car group. |
GregAmy |
Jul 19 2017, 07:39 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,262 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
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iwanta914-6 |
Jul 19 2017, 07:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 26-June 09 From: Minnesota Member No.: 10,510 Region Association: None |
...invest in rustoring a 914... Ok, I dunno if that was a typo, but I lol'd. It was completely intentional (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
carking1996 |
Jul 19 2017, 08:05 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 15-September 16 From: Ohio Member No.: 20,399 Region Association: North East States |
Sail area on the car looks rusted. Claims it's 'minimal rust'
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rhodyguy |
Jul 19 2017, 08:07 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,042 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
What an ad (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) . The seller did you a BIG favor jacking the price up. Increase your budget.
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era vulgaris |
Jul 19 2017, 08:09 AM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 980 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
Uhh....we feel your pain, but that car looks like it has multiple issues. You might have dodged a bullet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I wouldn't touch that car with a 10 foot pole. Loads of rust hiding all over that car, and the fender to cowl seals have been filled in, which usually means lots of bondo that's hiding rust. OP dodged a bullet on this one, in my opinion. |
Optimusglen |
Jul 19 2017, 08:12 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 901 Joined: 26-February 16 From: Minneapolis Member No.: 19,709 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
My thoughts are that a car is only worth what someone will buy it for. It was probably worth it at the original price, might be worth it to someone for the new price.
If you focus your attention and energy on automotive flippers, you're going to die angry and depressed. They've been around since the day the car was born, and they'll be here long after you're gone. That is of course unless a large asteroid comes and ends it all. On mine I think I replied within 2 hours of it being posted in the early hours of the morning, paid for it that night. |
ljubodraz |
Jul 19 2017, 08:15 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 64 Joined: 4-May 14 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 17,312 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Nditiz, don't make me start my own rant about your own, less than stellar, dealing with me for a local-to-me PPI. You said you'd get back to me and never did. Not a big deal to me until you start complaining about others. Just saying.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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mbseto |
Jul 19 2017, 08:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 6-August 14 From: Cincy Member No.: 17,743 Region Association: North East States |
Hurts to lose a deal, and doesn't help the sting when everyone else just says tough luck. I feel you. Best consolation it that deals will continue to come along. Keep your eyes open and you'll get one, and some other chump that missed it will be on his forum complaining about you! :-)
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nditiz1 |
Jul 19 2017, 10:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,165 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Nditiz, don't make me start my own rant about your own, less than stellar, dealing with me for a local-to-me PPI. You said you'd get back to me and never did. Not a big deal to me until you start complaining about others. Just saying.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Mike sorry I never got back to you I put that message out to a couple of people willing to do a PPI. I thought I had responded saying I already had it done by another memeber. |
nditiz1 |
Jul 19 2017, 10:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,165 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Also, I was in no way looking for a flipper. Yes I love finding a "deal". My budget is not $3500 either it is closer to 10k. The sting of this rant is because I usually scour the local ads daily if not every few hours and missed this only to have it pop up for more money and nothing done to it. While I may have dodged a bullet the feeling I have not being able to drive a, rusty not sorted, 914 still exists. I figured even if it did turn out to be a turd I'd still have value in the motor/trans, unless I'm wrong about the value of the 2.0.
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