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Choices, Deciding between 2 cars |
nditiz1 |
Jul 23 2017, 04:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If you were to choose between 2 914s which would you choose?
Option 1 73 1.7 Blue plate CA car with no rust, have not heard engine run Option 2 75 1.8 CA car non original motor, minor hell hole rust, runs good. The 73 is 2 grand less but needs to be shipped for 1 grand. Is the 1.7 better than the 1.8? What's the value of a running car vs a non runner? |
Larmo63 |
Jul 23 2017, 04:11 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Go with the '73.
Better year car, same general displacement. |
BeatNavy |
Jul 23 2017, 04:21 PM
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Certified Professional Scapegoat Group: Members Posts: 2,924 Joined: 26-February 14 From: Easton, MD Member No.: 17,042 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Go with the car that has the least rust. In the long run, the engines are all swappable and, relative to major rust repair, not that expensive. "Minor" hell hole rust can become major longitude repair once you start digging.
In your example I go Option 1 all the way, for a variety of reasons (but mostly rust). |
Mikey914 |
Jul 23 2017, 04:22 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,652 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
73 not knowing any more than specified.
BTW there is no such thing as a rust free 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
My 914 |
Jul 23 2017, 04:34 PM
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Casual Member Group: Members Posts: 560 Joined: 23-April 16 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 19,928 Region Association: North East States |
The less rust, the better.
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mepstein |
Jul 23 2017, 05:19 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,255 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Go with the car that has the least rust. In the long run, the engines are all swappable and, relative to major rust repair, not that expensive. "Minor" hell hole rust can become major longitude repair once you start digging. In your example I go Option 1 all the way, for a variety of reasons (but mostly rust). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) X 10 |
nditiz1 |
Jul 23 2017, 05:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Also option 2 is in the classifieds on 914world posted by the grump if that makes a difference.
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nditiz1 |
Jul 23 2017, 05:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Option 2 also has new interior and PMB brakes all done, option 1 has been sitting for some time.
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TheCabinetmaker |
Jul 23 2017, 05:35 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
There's always option # 3
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rgalla9146 |
Jul 23 2017, 06:01 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,545 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
# 3
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arne |
Jul 23 2017, 06:21 PM
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Serial Rescuer of old vehicles... Group: Members Posts: 737 Joined: 31-January 17 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 20,799 Region Association: None |
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My 914 |
Jul 23 2017, 07:42 PM
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Casual Member Group: Members Posts: 560 Joined: 23-April 16 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 19,928 Region Association: North East States |
Or, maybe as per option #3 (which I hadn't considered but do like), neither of these is the best choice right now.
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kgruen2 |
Jul 23 2017, 11:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 109 Joined: 22-February 15 From: Prescott, Az. Member No.: 18,459 Region Association: Southwest Region |
If you're in California, go with the '73. You won't need any smog checks and you can do to the engine what you want. I'm pretty sure the '75 will need to be smogged, limiting your choices for future engine improvements. Back in the day, when I was Service Adviser for Merlin Olsen Porsche/Audi, the 74 and 75 1.8's were a big problem with the fuel injection (which now days I'm sure the problems are better understood and worked out). Check with your State re. the smog rules.
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steuspeed |
Jul 24 2017, 02:28 AM
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73 no brainer.
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somd914 |
Jul 24 2017, 03:49 AM
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If both cars were equal in condition, the '73 is a more desirable car.
But when considering two cars that are not equal in condition, I agree, rust is the major concern - gets expensive quickly and the amount of rust is always greater than originally thought. As for engines, plan on at least $6k for a full rebuild if you are considering a car that needs a rebuild unless you do the work yourself. Be willing to spend more up front as a few thousand more upfront might save you several times that amount in repairs/upgrades. |
JeffBowlsby |
Jul 24 2017, 05:14 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,490 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
No smog checks for 1975 MY cars in CA.
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iwanta914-6 |
Jul 24 2017, 07:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 26-June 09 From: Minnesota Member No.: 10,510 Region Association: None |
With the information given, the 73 should be the choice every time.
I just followed an Olympic Blue 73 1.7L on my way to work this morning. Just seeing one on the road made me smile. |
iwanta914-6 |
Jul 24 2017, 07:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 26-June 09 From: Minnesota Member No.: 10,510 Region Association: None |
If you were to choose between 2 914s which would you choose? Option 1 73 1.7 Blue plate CA car with no rust, have not heard engine run Option 2 75 1.8 CA car non original motor, minor hell hole rust, runs good. The 73 is 2 grand less but needs to be shipped for 1 grand. Is the 1.7 better than the 1.8? What's the value of a running car vs a non runner? Okay, you mentioned that Grump's car is "option #2". Last update to that thread was over a month ago and price was $5K. The other car is 2 grand less? Honestly, if your budget is honestly $10K, look at cars that are $10K - $12K and use some negotiation skills to get it in your budget. $5K cars are going to cost way more in the long run. |
kgruen2 |
Jul 26 2017, 03:02 AM
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Mark Henry |
Jul 26 2017, 06:11 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Honestly, if your budget is honestly $10K, look at cars that are $10K - $12K and use some negotiation skills to get it in your budget. $5K cars are going to cost way more in the long run. Go with the car that has the least rust. In the long run, the engines are all swappable and, relative to major rust repair, not that expensive. "Minor" hell hole rust can become major longitude repair once you start digging. In your example I go Option 1 all the way, for a variety of reasons (but mostly rust). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) X 10 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I tell my customers to buy the best car they can, even if they have to get a loan. A well sorted car you can drive now and in the end the interest costs will be far less than the cost of restoration , not to mention the seat time lost to jackstand time. |
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