03' boxster 5 spd, plain jane worth it ?, That many possible problems..!! |
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03' boxster 5 spd, plain jane worth it ?, That many possible problems..!! |
flyer86d |
Aug 5 2017, 04:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 425 Joined: 12-January 11 From: Corea, Maine Member No.: 12,585 Region Association: North East States |
That is what we have found. I bought a 99 with 115K on it with a weak clutch from its original owner. Great car, fast enough for me with heat and a/c. It came with a file folder as thick as a large town phone book of all of the service records and they did most everything but the clutch and IMS. I parked it in the barn after the clutch gave up completely two weeks after purchase. Life and cancer caused it to sit until spring 2016 when I pulled the trans and fixed it. Frankly, it was fairly easy to work on, the exhaust was the biggest pain to remove. The clutch disk was worn to the rivets but it failed and ruined the slave because the release arm broke. The IMS bearing was straightforward to change once you were in there and the original looked so good I could have sold it on eBay! I had to have the alternator rebuilt as it wouldn't come alive after sitting.
That is about it. Great car for the money and the engine noise is glorious when you are on it! It's a hoot to drive. I have about 122k on it now. I do store it for the winter but the original owned did not and it is still here and rust free. Charlie |
flmont |
Aug 6 2017, 11:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I thank everyone for the info,..I went to go and drive it,..it was out on a test drive and then sold,..didnt even get a chance to sit in it...what a pisser,..Iam looking for a hiway star for long weekend trips with my honey..but,..I will now look for the S but low miles equals well kepted cars to me...
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thelogo |
Aug 6 2017, 12:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
I thank everyone for the info,..I went to go and drive it,..it was out on a test drive and then sold,..didnt even get a chance to sit in it...what a pisser,..Iam looking for a hiway star for long weekend trips with my honey..but,..I will now look for the S but low miles equals well kepted cars to me... Im telling you dont do it Or go lease one so if the worst happens Its not on you Been down this boxster road , its a miscalculation (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) Way better off Look for a miata , toyota mr2 latest gen Or a z3 ,z4 bavarian Even a mazda rx8 . Save a ton of money and pain in ass Still fun cars too |
Mark Henry |
Aug 6 2017, 12:47 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
,..I will now look for the S but low miles equals well kepted cars to me... I know this sounds weird but the cars that seem to have the most issues with IMS are the low mile "driven by granny" type. Often it seems the IMS fails between 40-60K miles. Cars that have been spiritedly driven with over 80K are often fine. I wouldn't even consider a 996 without a full PPI by a Porsche shop. This should include an oil analysis, sump and filter inspection, code check to look for over-rev, borescope on at least cylinder#5 and 6, plus general inspection. If the seller tries to talk you out of a PPI walk away. Any tickety-tic noise that doesn't go away, again walk away. Daily driver I strongly suggest an IMS (2000 up), water pump, thermostat and coolant (every 4-5 years), and of course change the oil on time every time with porsche approved (A-40) oil. |
porschetub |
Aug 6 2017, 04:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,699 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
There appears to been issues with these cars,there are documented problems with the engines however they did build a very large amount of these by Porsche standards,appears some have problems and an even greater number didn't.
A good friend bought one that had had the common issues addressed @ an official Porsche dealership in my country only to find later that the PO wasn't totally honest and the clutch went after 6 months ,that really cost him $$$. The earlier cars aren't worth much now so this makes it easier for a buyer to really shop around for a good price,sounds like the OP's choice is rather expensive for that year/model. Remember when these cars came out and motoring writers said they were good ''but do we need another 2 seater convertible on the market " ?,appears they have been a real top seller for Porsche along with the Cayenne. |
thelogo |
Aug 7 2017, 10:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
Daily driver I strongly suggest an IMS (2000 up), water pump, thermostat and coolant (every 4-5 years), and of course change the oil on time every time with porsche approved (A-40) oil. ' If that doesn't convince you not to buy the car What would (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) |
EdwardBlume |
Aug 8 2017, 06:36 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
I would think a Boxster with a RL / Odyssey / Pilot 3.5 motor would be very interesting.
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My 914 |
Aug 8 2017, 07:01 AM
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Casual Member Group: Members Posts: 560 Joined: 23-April 16 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 19,928 Region Association: North East States |
I thank everyone for the info,..I went to go and drive it,..it was out on a test drive and then sold,..didnt even get a chance to sit in it...what a pisser,..Iam looking for a hiway star for long weekend trips with my honey..but,..I will now look for the S but low miles equals well kepted cars to me... Don't sweat it too much. It sold because you weren't meant to have it. |
Chris H. |
Aug 8 2017, 07:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,030 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) There are HUNDREDS of them out there for sale. They are still decreasing in value so you can wait for the right one.
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flyer86d |
Aug 8 2017, 08:26 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 425 Joined: 12-January 11 From: Corea, Maine Member No.: 12,585 Region Association: North East States |
I am just happy to see that people are still bashing these cars and the 996's. It is continuing to hold the prices down so we can afford them. They are terrific cars if driven/maintained properly like any Porsche.
When you think back, most Porsches have had some common flaw that has the potential to cause an expensive failure. Many of these cars are now sold to the Everyman who can afford them and they expect, because they are expensive, a trouble free and low maintenance car. And they are for the most part. There is a flaw though which has been well publicized. They are now old enough that the offending part has been changed on many or if not, the price should reflect it. My best advise is to buy one that includes all of its service records Charlie |
Andyrew |
Aug 8 2017, 08:50 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
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GeorgeRud |
Aug 8 2017, 10:39 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The Excellence Buyer's Guide that came in yesterday's mail has a great article on the IMS bearing issues. I hope that Porsche has finally figured out how to make these live!
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Racer |
Aug 8 2017, 04:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The Excellence Buyer's Guide that came in yesterday's mail has a great article on the IMS bearing issues. I hope that Porsche has finally figured out how to make these live! lol.. yes.. they stopped selling them and their cruddy design for the 2009 model year (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
Mark Henry |
Aug 8 2017, 04:42 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I am just happy to see that people are still bashing these cars and the 996's. It is continuing to hold the prices down so we can afford them. They are terrific cars if driven/maintained properly like any Porsche. When you think back, most Porsches have had some common flaw that has the potential to cause an expensive failure. Many of these cars are now sold to the Everyman who can afford them and they expect, because they are expensive, a trouble free and low maintenance car. And they are for the most part. There is a flaw though which has been well publicized. They are now old enough that the offending part has been changed on many or if not, the price should reflect it. My best advise is to buy one that includes all of its service records Charlie I'm not bashing them, in fact I'm seriously thinking of a C4S, maybe next year. Anyone who hasn't driven one has absolutely no clue as to WTF they are talking about. Also consider this, it's a high end sports car, a pro built 911 AC engine can easily cost the same as a 996 engine. A Ferrari costs $18K just for the 20K tune up. They are still a $30K plus car, $35-37K for a C4S. For one with a done right new engine I can see over $40K. If I can find a good condition but blown C4S for sub $10K, stick a new engine in it, I'd consider it a good deal. |
flmont |
Aug 8 2017, 07:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Yes,..and that's the beauty of my 914,.2 months away from driving,,( if no major problems show up).I know its reliable for the most part unless it blows a trans or my 3.3 suby gives up ..but both of those fixes should be under a grand !!!
I didn't think the boxster was such a gamble even after the IMS. |
Chris H. |
Aug 9 2017, 09:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,030 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I am just happy to see that people are still bashing these cars and the 996's. It is continuing to hold the prices down so we can afford them. They are terrific cars if driven/maintained properly like any Porsche. When you think back, most Porsches have had some common flaw that has the potential to cause an expensive failure. Many of these cars are now sold to the Everyman who can afford them and they expect, because they are expensive, a trouble free and low maintenance car. And they are for the most part. There is a flaw though which has been well publicized. They are now old enough that the offending part has been changed on many or if not, the price should reflect it. My best advise is to buy one that includes all of its service records Charlie I'm not bashing them, in fact I'm seriously thinking of a C4S, maybe next year. Anyone who hasn't driven one has absolutely no clue as to WTF they are talking about. Also consider this, it's a high end sports car, a pro built 911 AC engine can easily cost the same as a 996 engine. A Ferrari costs $18K just for the 20K tune up. They are still a $30K plus car, $35-37K for a C4S. For one with a done right new engine I can see over $40K. If I can find a good condition but blown C4S for sub $10K, stick a new engine in it, I'd consider it a good deal. Yeah I would love to have a 996 Carrera 4. Prices seem to be steady on those unfortunately (for a buyer). I'm no basher either. As with any car there are issues that can be expected. Most car models end up dying off but with Porsches that won't happen. There is a process by which crappy ones are parted out or junked and many change hands from unappreciative owners to enthusiasts, then supply dips below demand and the price levels off, gradually climbing. Any issues like hell hole rust, IMS bearings, chain tensioner issues, etc are corrected as well. It sure took a HELL of a long time for 914's to appreciate significantly! |
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