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> What Wheels/Tire set up on your GT body race car?
jmz
post Aug 18 2017, 11:21 AM
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What's everyone running for wheels and tire size on their race cars?

Do you go with a staggered setup or square?

What size wheel?

What size tire?

What do you run for rains?

So far I've tried

15x8&9 with 245x40x15 DOT comp tires on all four corners Maxxis Victra RC-1

16x10 with slicks on all four corners. Dunlop 265x60x16 slicks


I'm most likely going to run 16x8&9 next weekend with 245x45x16 on all four corners with RA-1s.

I've got some 15x9&11 that I may try down the road with my local club

and when I run COTA with SVRA later this year I'll have to go to 15x8 on all 4.

I'm new to this car and am still learning it and learning to race.

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post Aug 22 2017, 07:03 AM
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Regarding the spoilers, splitters, spoiler and wings....

My on-track experience leads me to believe:
1) The duckbill spoiler is of no tangible performance value but it does greatly help the aesthetics of the rear on a 914. That air is dead as dead as can be...
2) The spoiler is a decent place to mount brake cooling ducts but not much else..it increases drag vs a stock valance. The increased stability is probably a function of the car being slowed down due to the increased vertical surface area. I run this air-dam too...
3) A wing needs to be way the hell up there to grab clean air - the bottom of my wing is 1" (and should be higher) above the highest point of the roof line.
4) An actual splitter must be able to support at least 250 pounds of direct vertical force to remain stable at speed. My first effort fractured at 160 mph (mid-corner T9 RA) and I thought I had lost a wheel!!! IF you install one - bring it back all the way to the front suspension cross-member - there is more to aero than just the leading edge reveal.

Not meant to offend and step on toes - just sharing what I have learned...

T
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post Jan 31 2018, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(Cracker @ Aug 22 2017, 06:03 AM) *

Regarding the spoilers, splitters, spoiler and wings....

My on-track experience leads me to believe:
1) The duckbill spoiler is of no tangible performance value but it does greatly help the aesthetics of the rear on a 914. That air is dead as dead as can be...
2) The spoiler is a decent place to mount brake cooling ducts but not much else..it increases drag vs a stock valance. The increased stability is probably a function of the car being slowed down due to the increased vertical surface area. I run this air-dam too...
3) A wing needs to be way the hell up there to grab clean air - the bottom of my wing is 1" (and should be higher) above the highest point of the roof line.
4) An actual splitter must be able to support at least 250 pounds of direct vertical force to remain stable at speed. My first effort fractured at 160 mph (mid-corner T9 RA) and I thought I had lost a wheel!!! IF you install one - bring it back all the way to the front suspension cross-member - there is more to aero than just the leading edge reveal.

Not meant to offend and step on toes - just sharing what I have learned...

T



I'm no aero expert
but Tony is!!!!

I think the car designers only had rudimentary aero in mind when they designed the car and the dead space is hard to over come with the roof line.

most classes will not allow the change
but the old PCA classes did....
this is how the aero was improved by a local 914 race shop (AJRS) on many of the PCA club race cars 15 years ago....

they changed the roof line to improve the high speed aero
they used clear lexan to build a square duct to get air into the electric fan shrouds for engine cooling....

notice the windshield is layed back... and the base of the windshield covers the cowl vents as it is moved forward all the way to the edge of the front trunk.


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QUOTE(brant @ Jan 31 2018, 12:28 PM) *

QUOTE(Cracker @ Aug 22 2017, 06:03 AM) *

Regarding the spoilers, splitters, spoiler and wings....

My on-track experience leads me to believe:
1) The duckbill spoiler is of no tangible performance value but it does greatly help the aesthetics of the rear on a 914. That air is dead as dead as can be...
2) The spoiler is a decent place to mount brake cooling ducts but not much else..it increases drag vs a stock valance. The increased stability is probably a function of the car being slowed down due to the increased vertical surface area. I run this air-dam too...
3) A wing needs to be way the hell up there to grab clean air - the bottom of my wing is 1" (and should be higher) above the highest point of the roof line.
4) An actual splitter must be able to support at least 250 pounds of direct vertical force to remain stable at speed. My first effort fractured at 160 mph (mid-corner T9 RA) and I thought I had lost a wheel!!! IF you install one - bring it back all the way to the front suspension cross-member - there is more to aero than just the leading edge reveal.

Not meant to offend and step on toes - just sharing what I have learned...

T



I'm no aero expert
but Tony is!!!!

I think the car designers only had rudimentary aero in mind when they designed the car and the dead space is hard to over come with the roof line.

most classes will not allow the change
but the old PCA classes did....
this is how the aero was improved by a local 914 race shop (AJRS) on many of the PCA club race cars 15 years ago....

they changed the roof line to improve the high speed aero
they used clear lexan to build a square duct to get air into the electric fan shrouds for engine cooling....

notice the windshield is layed back... and the base of the windshield covers the cowl vents as it is moved forward all the way to the edge of the front trunk.


I have the little brother to this car. Same builder, same roof mods. Haven't had it out enough to comment on it' performance, but according to the logbooks it took a couple of podiums in the day. Ran GT5S class.
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jmz   What Wheels/Tire set up on your GT body race car?   Aug 18 2017, 11:21 AM
stownsen914   I'm running 16x11 front and 16x12.5 rear with ...   Aug 18 2017, 07:26 PM
Cracker   For what its worth and realizing this might not ap...   Aug 19 2017, 02:55 PM
jmz   For what its worth and realizing this might not a...   Aug 21 2017, 09:45 AM
MikeSpraggi   I'm running 15x7 205/60/15 front and 15x8 225/...   Aug 20 2017, 01:00 PM
jmz   I'm running 15x7 205/60/15 front and 15x8 225...   Aug 21 2017, 09:44 AM
MikeSpraggi   I'm running 15x7 205/60/15 front and 15x8 22...   Aug 22 2017, 12:04 AM
slivel   Fuchs 16x8 front with Hoosier 245/45/16 and 16x9 r...   Aug 21 2017, 03:37 PM
tygaboy   Fuchs 16x8 front with Hoosier 245/45/16 and 16x9 ...   Aug 21 2017, 04:11 PM
HalfMoon   Fuchs 16x8 front with Hoosier 245/45/16 and 16x9 ...   Sep 9 2017, 04:21 PM
Cracker   Regarding the spoilers, splitters, spoiler and win...   Aug 22 2017, 07:03 AM
jmz   Regarding the spoilers, splitters, spoiler and wi...   Aug 23 2017, 10:26 PM
Cracker   Spoiler or splitter? If you are referring to a spl...   Aug 24 2017, 05:29 AM
jmz   Spoiler or splitter? If you are referring to a sp...   Aug 24 2017, 06:12 AM
Cracker   LOL. Yes. You can run that with no front-aero all ...   Aug 24 2017, 06:28 AM
brant   Regarding the spoilers, splitters, spoiler and wi...   Jan 31 2018, 01:28 PM
stownsen914   I'd agree that the small spoilers on the rear ...   Jan 31 2018, 06:11 PM
Charles Freeborn   Regarding the spoilers, splitters, spoiler and w...   Apr 9 2021, 07:42 PM
tjtryon   I am replying to this 5 year old post, as I think ...   Apr 9 2021, 01:34 PM
jmz   For posterity here are a few shots of my car in di...   Aug 22 2017, 08:51 PM
Justinp71   For posterity here are a few shots of my car in d...   Sep 22 2017, 10:59 AM
jmz   For posterity here are a few shots of my car in ...   Sep 25 2017, 10:29 AM
Cracker   striking teener... T   Aug 22 2017, 09:20 PM
jmitro   thread kinda morphed from tires to aero, but I thi...   Aug 24 2017, 04:44 PM
jmz   thread kinda morphed from tires to aero, but I th...   Sep 7 2017, 04:32 PM
jmz   I don't mind bouncing between aero and wheel/t...   Sep 11 2017, 09:07 PM
Justinp71   My car is a little more street than track, so I wa...   Sep 18 2017, 04:46 PM
jmz   Now with 15x8 & 9 Fuchs with 245x40x15 and 275...   Sep 27 2017, 12:25 PM
crsedge   What about for street tyres on 15 x 7 and 15 x 8...   Sep 27 2017, 03:27 PM
Justinp71   What about for street tyres on 15 x 7 and 15 x 8...   Sep 27 2017, 11:11 PM
crsedge   What about for street tyres on 15 x 7 and 15 x 8...   Sep 29 2017, 04:48 PM
Justinp71   [quote name='Justinp71' post='2532050' date='Sep ...   Oct 2 2017, 03:51 PM
smokey   225/45 front 245/40 rear Advan Ao48 The advan ru...   Oct 2 2017, 06:39 PM
smokey   225/45 front 245/40 rear Advan Ao48 The advan r...   Oct 2 2017, 06:41 PM
smokey   225/45 front 245/40 rear Advan Ao48 The advan ...   Oct 2 2017, 06:46 PM
Justinp71   225/45 front 245/40 rear Advan Ao48 The advan r...   Oct 3 2017, 11:56 AM
smokey   Luv the tread look .... 3.2 Carbureted twin plug...   Oct 2 2017, 07:09 PM
Andyrew   Luv the tread look .... 3.2 Carbureted twin plu...   Oct 3 2017, 01:02 PM
smokey   Luv the tread look .... 3.2 Carbureted twin pl...   Oct 3 2017, 05:30 PM
smokey   :drooley:   Oct 3 2017, 05:38 PM
smokey   :toke:   Oct 3 2017, 05:38 PM
koozy   On this car I had 15x11 Real Racing Wheels with 27...   Jan 31 2018, 01:10 AM
koozy   It will be the same on this new project when I wid...   Jan 31 2018, 01:15 AM
campbellcj   Old-ish thread brought back but nothing wrong with...   Jan 31 2018, 10:29 AM
koozy   I have seen Trekkor's running his car at Thund...   Jan 31 2018, 12:38 PM
brant   I think he cleaned up the cooling air and still ha...   Jan 31 2018, 06:49 PM


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