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1973Porsche
post Sep 30 2017, 10:32 PM
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So I'm on the fence about selling my 914. I discovered that the rust on my car was worse than expected. At this point I'm not sure if I can afford to fix the car properly but at the same time the car does bring me a good amount of joy. I posted these pictures on a 914 page and was told it was bad. Here's what I would like to know. Roughly how bad is this rust? Could I just por15 it and just enjoy the car as is for now? Finally how much do you think it's worth in the current state? Any advice is appreciated

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post Oct 1 2017, 12:21 AM
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POR15 doesn't fix rust, it just covers it up.

The pics are hard to see because of how small they are, but I see lots of holes and guessing at least some of them are in structural areas. For the sake of your safety, fix it before driving it, but first verify that it's worth saving. Post more photos here if you don't know anyone local to you that can really assess it properly.

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post Oct 1 2017, 06:59 AM
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Depending on where you are in Texas, you might find some local enthusiasts that can check it for you, but the pics look bad. Replacement panels are available from Restoration Design, but they need to be installed by someone who knows how to repair the longs without warping the car.
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post Oct 1 2017, 07:46 AM
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I used to own a '72 that was similar to your car. From the outside it looked ok, but underneath it was rotten everywhere just like yours, if not worse. I took it to a 914 resto shop here in NC, and after closely inspecting it they basically told me not to waste my money repairing anything and to just sell it. You know it's bad when a shop actually turns you away (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
I was able to sell it for $5k being fully honest about its condition with buyers. Make of that what you will regarding your car's value.
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post Oct 1 2017, 08:46 AM
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Thank you all for the advice. I adjust the pictures to be seen easier. Sorry if they're still weird. I'm having a hard time with them still. Anyway, from the sounds of it all I either have a long path ahead of me restoring it or selling it to someone who can restore it properly and no middle ground?
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post Oct 1 2017, 08:50 AM
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Looks like it needs long repair, rear floor pan, jack plates and possibly firewall.. Its a big job I am just finishing up mine and it took me 2 years inbetween life..
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post Oct 1 2017, 10:01 AM
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Downsize the pictures with Paint : resize. Most of mine off my phone I use 25%.
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post Oct 1 2017, 01:19 PM
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As a guy that has looked at many hopeless causes and thought I could fix that and was so wrong. This is about as bad as it gets. Unless you have the drive, passion, skills, and $$$$$ to bring the dead back to life. Move on unless you are looking for a parts car.
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post Oct 1 2017, 01:23 PM
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If you are close to me, I will be happy to give you an evaluation of your car.

I am near DFW airport, Northeast of Fort Worth.


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post Oct 1 2017, 01:25 PM
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If you just upload the images here instead of imgur the forum software will automatically resize them to fit better.
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post Oct 1 2017, 04:47 PM
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Don't think this a parts car yet. I know it's not beyond saving. I know it's beyond my means of saving but someone knows these cars more could really helps this at I believe. Anyway what do you guys think this car is worth in current state judging by the bottom picture?
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post Oct 1 2017, 05:31 PM
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One thing to consider before making this a "parts car", you can always repair it wrong. I know this is sacrilege but long before most Porsches were worth anything people were just fixing them and driving them. I've seen it all, even street sign floor pans, you name it. Every car doesn't have to be perfect to be fun. I would much rather see a car poorly repaired than scrapped, generations from now you will be thanked. I think of all the 356's and 911/912's that were scrapped because they "couldn't be fixed". Well the ones that weren't scrapped are now being fixed, and the values of the cars will absorb the work. So please don't scrap another Porsche. Buy the replacement panels, buy a Mig welder and make a mess out of it, and then drive it!


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post Oct 1 2017, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(1973Porsche @ Oct 1 2017, 03:47 PM) *

Don't think this a parts car yet. I know it's not beyond saving. I know it's beyond my means of saving but someone knows these cars more could really helps this at I believe. Anyway what do you guys think this car is worth in current state judging by the bottom picture?


Good paint on the top side may just mean it's a good looking parts car. But it's not safe to drive and will cost you a lot to repair correctly. Given the pictures, im sure there's a lot more rust lurking if you look hard enough.
Definitely fixable though, they all are. What's your time worth? How deep is your wallet ? Got welding skills? Want to learn?
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post Oct 1 2017, 05:43 PM
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Like I stated before I don't think this is past material yet. It does need a lot but there's still good in this one. I am selling it as I do not have the time nor the skill to do it correctly and half assing isn't my way. I just want a ball park estimate for well running 1.7 with passenger rust that mine has.
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post Oct 1 2017, 05:47 PM
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Not a parts car.. Very savable.. I teach welding at a college level for a living and can tell you this. It takes very little in the way of welding skills to fix this.. It needs a desire to work with a metal puzzle.. You need to research proper order of things etc but it can be saved amd should be. People are quick to scrap cars.. I think that is a shame and want to see them all saved.. If I am lucky in a year I see 1 914 on the road. They are rare around here and that will be the trend everywhere Becuase they rust and people give up on them..
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post Oct 1 2017, 07:22 PM
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New floor pans and new rockers. Likely new rear trunk and battery tray.

If you dont know how to weld thats about 10k in repairs. If you do know how, thats about 2 years and 2500 in repairs + paint, based on the average timelines that I see.
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post Oct 1 2017, 07:50 PM
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Rear trunk is good actually been under it, and above looks solid. Battery tray yeah. What I really want to know is what this car would go for in it's current state as I'm pretty set on selling it.
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post Oct 2 2017, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(1973Porsche @ Oct 1 2017, 06:50 PM) *

Rear trunk is good actually been under it, and above looks solid. Battery tray yeah. What I really want to know is what this car would go for in it's current state as I'm pretty set on selling it.


Hard to make a call given the small # of pictures, but unless it's structurally sound, you need to price it like a parts car because that's what it is. If the engine and tranny are good, I'd say it's worth ~$3k, depending on the condition of the other parts and the full extent of the rust.
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post Oct 2 2017, 12:46 PM
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Its worth the price of a running engine and trans combo and the wheels if your selling as a whole. I say 3-5K depending on buyer and engine condition. Its a prime candidate for a chassis swap.

Its much better if you part it out as a whole. Those bumpers will bring a good deal of money.
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post Oct 2 2017, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Oct 2 2017, 11:46 AM) *

Its worth the price of a running engine and trans combo and the wheels if your selling as a whole. I say 3-5K depending on buyer and engine condition. Its a prime candidate for a chassis swap.

Its much better if you part it out as a whole. Those bumpers will bring a good deal of money.


Don't mean to hijack but if you do decide to part it out, I'm calling first dibs on the bumpers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Seriously, please contact me if you're willing to sell them.
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