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> Weber 44 IDF's - keep - or find original d-jet?
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post Jul 26 2021, 04:48 PM
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Have you considered another 914 project? It sounds as though your current ride is smooth, economical and powerful, why change a thing? maybe leave well enough alone?
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post Jul 26 2021, 07:36 PM
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Well, still TONS of stuff to do to my 914. See details here:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...6768&st=160

Don't expect to be finished for a couple years. Meanwhile I'm enjoying driving it! Over 2,000 miles in last month!

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post Jul 28 2021, 04:54 AM
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It seems as though the consensus here is to go with factory FI in general. I am in the opposite camp. With 50 years old wiring, sensors, ECU, .... the potential for failure is high. Sure, when this is new the factory FI setup is far superior, but they are not new. Several years ago I switched my Alfa spider from L jet to Webers and never looked back. And yes, carbs are not without fault, but the number of variables and relative ease (for an old guy) to get carbs running is better than factory FI. My .02
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post Jul 28 2021, 09:02 AM
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I know a few things re- the stock engine:

The engine will never run better than with a good working original D-Jet.

The engine will never have more power half throttle and up than with IDF-44's.

D-Jet parts are getting harder and harder to find. Contrary to many in the 914 community, Eric at PMB is passionate about NOT going with the D-Jet for that reason, and going with Weber's.

Also, contrary to the belief of many, IDF-44's can be tuned to run great for everyday driving. And I am not the only one who has done this. Yes, IDF-40's are more ideally suited for the 2.0, but I did not inherit them and have no reason to spend the $$$ to go back to them.

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It seems as though the consensus here is to go with factory FI in general. I am in the opposite camp. With 50 years old wiring, sensors, ECU, .... the potential for failure is high. Sure, when this is new the factory FI setup is far superior, but they are not new. Several years ago I switched my Alfa spider from L jet to Webers and never looked back. And yes, carbs are not without fault, but the number of variables and relative ease (for an old guy) to get carbs running is better than factory FI. My .02

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IF I did have another project, it would be to find, rebuild and install a nice 3.0 or 3.2 911 engine.......in my present 914......but that is more than I can handle technically......

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I started with 44 idf and went to 40 IDF on my 2.0 . Now I am going back and buying another set of 44 IDF for my 2056 build. The Mid to Top power with headers is amazing
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QUOTE(rfinegan @ Jul 28 2021, 10:11 AM) *

I started with 44 idf and went to 40 IDF on my 2.0 . Now I am going back and buying another set of 44 IDF for my 2056 build. The Mid to Top power with headers is amazing


I was following you build somewhat ( last I saw you were getting the rocker geometry proper) it's alive!! great news. I am about to assemble the case/crank soon. My local NAPA is doing a standard valve job on my heads and Dema (Elgin cams) is grinding my core for a minor upgrade. Weber 40 IDF will top things off.
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If anything on my engine craps out, I'm headed the same way on the 2056 build and headers.......you can be my guide........

GN

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I was a master mechanic in my youth, now I'm a Quality Assurance Software Engineer.
It is all about a documenting a repeatable path.
I sure hope this is a GOOD / Happy Path to repeat and not a BUG/Failure!
Im always available for insight either way
-Robert

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If anything on my engine craps out, I'm headed the same way on the 2056 build and headers.......you can be my guide........

GN

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I started with 44 idf and went to 40 IDF on my 2.0 . Now I am going back and buying another set of 44 IDF for my 2056 build. The Mid to Top power with headers is amazing


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I learned early "repeatability" is the key, without this, we are wandering
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