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> 123 Distributor Group Buy Thread, Replacement for NLA stock Dizzy's-Order 15 % Discount
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post Oct 19 2017, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Oct 18 2017, 07:08 PM) *

Do they make one compatible with L-Jet FI ?



Jim, I might be wrong, however I believe I am correct with the following:


Any of these 914 type distributors would work, however no reason to pay the extra money for the D-Jet specific version for your application.

5 different versions, priced lowest to highest:

1st. Very basic, no vacuum advance or retard (16 curves, based on factory curves and cannot be modified)(dip or rotary switch inside or on the side of distributor?)

2nd. Basic with vacuum advance (16 curves, based on factory curves and cannot be modified)(dip or rotary switch inside or on the side of distributor?)

3rd. Same as 2nd version except can trigger D-Jet injectors (thru the ECU)

4th. With vacuum and fully programmable curve for 2 curves, the second curve is "activated" by a toggle switch, curve #1 is 0vdc, curve #2 activated by supplying 12vdc to yellow wire. (I believe you can flip the switch on the fly, no mention of not being able to do that in the manual) With computer hooked up you can "tune" and play with settings and create the 2 curves.

5th. Full tilt boogie version... vac, fully programmable and Turbo or Supercharger friendly with boost retard. If I am correct, not able to change entire curve settings while motor is running, you can tune and create a curve, but not able to go from curve 1 to curve 2 while driving. Without loading the app, I would think you could create many curves to play with. Just remember that if you use the PIN feature to disable the ignition you are screwed if you loose or break your phone (you could borrow and load the app on another phone if you know your PIN I would hope)

If I am wrong , please let me know so I can edit or delete.


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post Oct 19 2017, 05:35 AM
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QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Oct 18 2017, 10:08 PM) *

Do they make one compatible with L-Jet FI ?




I'm guessing option 2 Jim???

Running Ljet also.


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post Oct 19 2017, 05:53 AM
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I'm running the 123Ignition on my Raby 2270 with dual carbs and have been for a year or so. I do not have the bluetooth version.

I think mine was the first build Jake did with the 123, and I know he was really happy with how he was able to fine tune it on the dyno. I've put a couple thousand miles on the car and it has been phenomenal. So far it's been bullet-proof.

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post Oct 19 2017, 05:56 AM
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QUOTE(SKL1 @ Oct 18 2017, 06:47 PM) *

I'd be interested in the one appropriate for a carbed (and with Webcam) engine. Not sure which one that is other than one not for the FI...


Also, curious if they are a larger diameter like the Mallory- I had to modify the sheetmetal on my '71 to get it to fit.

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post Oct 19 2017, 06:13 AM
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QUOTE(Porschef @ Oct 19 2017, 04:35 AM) *

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Oct 18 2017, 10:08 PM) *

Do they make one compatible with L-Jet FI ?




I'm guessing option 2 Jim???

Running Ljet also.


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? or #1 if no vac advance ?
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post Oct 19 2017, 07:15 AM
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Mueller is right in his descriptions. I added a similar list, with links to the first post. I think I also clarified the ordering process. To reiterate, order your distributor now with the code '914world' and those orders will be queued/held and will all ship together sometime in Mid-November.

I STRONGLY recommend the bluetooth unit (#4 in the first post) for ALL ENGINES, except D-Jet. It costs a little more, but if you can afford it, make the jump and get bluetooth.
D-Jet users only have one choice.

Another note about the bluetooth distributor, once the curve is set into the unit, you never need to connect to the device again. The unit will run autonomously for normal driving. The phone/bluetooth connection is only used when you need the change the tune. For most people this will be set it once, then forget about it and it's just a 'normal' distributor.
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post Oct 19 2017, 07:31 AM
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914world code doesn't work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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post Oct 19 2017, 07:33 AM
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I have been thinking about this for some time and waiting , looks like the time is now, 15% discount will be nice!

I am in for a D-jet version !

+1 for me.

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post Oct 19 2017, 07:35 AM
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QUOTE(123ignitionusa @ Oct 18 2017, 08:33 PM) *

Hello Guys
I talked to Rob and starting Monday October 23rd, and for three weeks you can use the coupon code
914world
It will expire November 10 and be good for 10% off retail on any product I offer. When the amount of orders reaches 10 then the discount becomes 15% off retail. When that happens the additional 5% will be refunded to the cc of the first ten orders.
Orders will be filled 7-10 after the close of the 3 week period.

Hope this helps
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914world code doesn't work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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he said starts Monday the 23rd I believe....
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post Oct 19 2017, 07:41 AM
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I bought one of these for my BMW2002 when the 2002 forum did a group buy last year. I've yet to run into someone on the 2002 forums that regrets putting one of these in.

Seriously folks. Get one. If I was not running McMarks EFI on my 914, I'd be buying one of these for my 914 too.

IMO, you want the bluetooth tune-able version. Its not much more money, and gives you the advantages of a tune-able spark curve.

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he said starts Monday the 23rd I believe....


Thanks Phil - I missed that post (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 19 2017, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 19 2017, 06:15 AM) *

Mueller is right in his descriptions. I added a similar list, with links to the first post. I think I also clarified the ordering process. To reiterate, order your distributor now with the code '914world' and those orders will be queued/held and will all ship together sometime in Mid-November.

I STRONGLY recommend the bluetooth unit (#4 in the first post) for ALL ENGINES, except D-Jet. It costs a little more, but if you can afford it, make the jump and get bluetooth.
D-Jet users only have one choice.

Another note about the bluetooth distributor, once the curve is set into the unit, you never need to connect to the device again. The unit will run autonomously for normal driving. The phone/bluetooth connection is only used when you need the change the tune. For most people this will be set it once, then forget about it and it's just a 'normal' distributor.



Thanks Mark and Mike.


The code won.t work until Sunday. He wanted to make sure there was interest in the first five which there looks like there is.

I.m running bone stoxk D-jet so I know my choice.
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post Oct 19 2017, 08:15 AM
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FYI page 1 Specifications

Temperature : -30 to 95 degrees Celsius

I haven't confirmed if this is ambiant temp or operating.
I bought it 3 weeks and I'm having issues with heat.
I started a thread but haven't updated it.
We have had hot weather 95 and up .
With temps in the 70's she runs great but above 85 she starts pinging on hard acceleration.
Been a Dr. Jeckell Mr. Hyde experience, latest test 100 octane fuel.
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QUOTE(mgphoto @ Oct 19 2017, 10:15 AM) *

FYI page 1 Specifications

Temperature : -30 to 95 degrees Celsius

I haven't confirmed if this is ambiant temp or operating.
I bought it 3 weeks and I'm having issues with heat.
I started a thread but haven't updated it.
We have had hot weather 95 and up .
With temps in the 70's she runs great but above 85 she starts pinging on hard acceleration.
Been a Dr. Jeckell Mr. Hyde experience, latest test 100 octane fuel.


I remember your thread.
Did you ever call them and ask them about it? These dizzys are running in engines all over the place, in climates just like yours (and warmer) without issue. Yours may have an issue (defective out of the box - it does happen), or it needs to be re-tuned. You should not need 100 octane fuel and should not be pinging under what would be considered normal operating conditions.

My experience with the 123 people (and others in the BMW community) is that the customer support is pretty darned good.

IMO, they could not sell these things if the upper range of operation was only 95 degrees. On a moderate day, its often over 110 under the hood of a normal car.

Zach
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Would the GB include the /6 distributor? Anybody use one for a 2.4 / 2.7 / 3.0?
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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Oct 19 2017, 10:33 AM) *

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Oct 19 2017, 10:15 AM) *

FYI page 1 Specifications

Temperature : -30 to 95 degrees Celsius

I haven't confirmed if this is ambiant temp or operating.
I bought it 3 weeks and I'm having issues with heat.
I started a thread but haven't updated it.
We have had hot weather 95 and up .
With temps in the 70's she runs great but above 85 she starts pinging on hard acceleration.
Been a Dr. Jeckell Mr. Hyde experience, latest test 100 octane fuel.


I remember your thread.
Did you ever call them and ask them about it? These dizzys are running in engines all over the place, in climates just like yours (and warmer) without issue. Yours may have an issue (defective out of the box - it does happen), or it needs to be re-tuned. You should not need 100 octane fuel and should not be pinging under what would be considered normal operating conditions.

My experience with the 123 people (and others in the BMW community) is that the customer support is pretty darned good.

IMO, they could not sell these things if the upper range of operation was only 95 degrees. On a moderate day, its often over 110 under the hood of a normal car.

Zach


I hope Zach is right because around here in the summer its going to be on average in the middle to upper 90's - of course I don't drive the car much on those days , unless I get the A/C thing figured out bynext year.

Keep us posted on your experience with this mgphoto please!

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95 C is 202 F

Hunh....well it will be in the 90's this weekend. Update your thread.

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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Oct 19 2017, 07:33 AM) *

QUOTE(mgphoto @ Oct 19 2017, 10:15 AM) *

FYI page 1 Specifications

Temperature : -30 to 95 degrees Celsius

I haven't confirmed if this is ambiant temp or operating.
I bought it 3 weeks and I'm having issues with heat.
I started a thread but haven't updated it.
We have had hot weather 95 and up .
With temps in the 70's she runs great but above 85 she starts pinging on hard acceleration.
Been a Dr. Jeckell Mr. Hyde experience, latest test 100 octane fuel.


I remember your thread.
Did you ever call them and ask them about it? These dizzys are running in engines all over the place, in climates just like yours (and warmer) without issue. Yours may have an issue (defective out of the box - it does happen), or it needs to be re-tuned. You should not need 100 octane fuel and should not be pinging under what would be considered normal operating conditions.

My experience with the 123 people (and others in the BMW community) is that the customer support is pretty darned good.

IMO, they could not sell these things if the upper range of operation was only 95 degrees. On a moderate day, its often over 110 under the hood of a normal car.

Zach



I know huh.
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I'm not at the debug with the manufacture yet, I'm trying to rule out all my mistakes first.
I'm just saying 95*C?

European website states 100*
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QUOTE(mgphoto @ Oct 19 2017, 07:56 AM) *

I'm not at the debug with the manufacture yet, I'm trying to rule out all my mistakes first.
I'm just saying 95*C?

European website states 100*



Well finish your thread .....you can list what you think your mistakes are and maybe we can learn something.

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