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> 123 Distributor Group Buy Thread, Replacement for NLA stock Dizzy's-Order 15 % Discount
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post Oct 20 2017, 05:16 PM
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I am in for one on my D-Jet F.I. engine.
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I just placed my order for my 1974 914 2.0 D-Jet F.I. (Original) stock with a few internal mods.

combo=123/Porsche-4-R-V-IE distributor (injection) + coil +spark Plug wires (black) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Hope I ordered the correct one for my 914.

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This is exactly what I am building and the same one I ordered.
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post Oct 20 2017, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(914_teener @ Oct 20 2017, 07:16 PM) *

QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Oct 20 2017, 02:15 PM) *

QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Oct 18 2017, 09:33 PM) *

I am in for one on my D-Jet F.I. engine.
Tom



I just placed my order for my 1974 914 2.0 D-Jet F.I. (Original) stock with a few internal mods.

combo=123/Porsche-4-R-V-IE distributor (injection) + coil +spark Plug wires (black) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Hope I ordered the correct one for my 914.

Tom



This is exactly what I am building and the same one I order


914-teener,

Thanks for your confirmation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) I was hoping someone would comment on my concerns. It was based on our expert 914 opinions (Bowlsby-Beat Navy-Etc-Etc) to select this combo.
Hey Bowlsby I also selected black spark plug wires (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 20 2017, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Oct 20 2017, 06:16 PM) *

QUOTE(914_teener @ Oct 20 2017, 07:16 PM) *

QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Oct 20 2017, 02:15 PM) *

QUOTE(TJB/914 @ Oct 18 2017, 09:33 PM) *

I am in for one on my D-Jet F.I. engine.
Tom



I just placed my order for my 1974 914 2.0 D-Jet F.I. (Original) stock with a few internal mods.

combo=123/Porsche-4-R-V-IE distributor (injection) + coil +spark Plug wires (black) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Hope I ordered the correct one for my 914.

Tom






This is exactly what I am building and the same one I order


914-teener,

Thanks for your confirmation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) I was hoping someone would comment on my concerns. It was based on our expert 914 opinions (Bowlsby-Beat Navy-Etc-Etc) to select this combo.
Hey Bowlsby I also selected black spark plug wires (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Tom



Well...I don't know if I'm an "expert" but I have read a lot on the curves on the stock distrubutors. Last year I had gathered what I thought was a workable distributor that I could use for a 2.0 build that will use a 74 stock D-jet setup. Turns out the distributor parts are all worn out and two ....NLA. All the other components besides the MPS were workable. Jeff Bowlsby did rebuild the MPS and it has been tested.

So after doing a LOT of reading I had decided to contact this company about their product and talked to a few members that already have it.

I want everybody to know...and I don't know how it was done...but I didn't edit my first post in this thread making the recommendations. I thoroughly read through the brochure and did contact Ed personally with several phone calls. According to my notes and conversations this is the one for a 74 D-jet system. The vacuum port is optional.

Last year Brad Anders wanted to know where the curves were published and then did a pretty good addition to his website on the history and operation of the distributors. If you haven't read it, makes for a good understanding of the advance theory and why Porsche changed it through the years. Dave Darling also published a chart on the distributors on the Bird Board. As Murphy's law would have it...I had the 205B with a question mark on the reference table. So, unknown.

What I can tell you is, that if you have a 74 D-jet setup, I have purchased the same one you have. I started the thread to save a few bucks and help others whom might be enthusiasts like me struggling to find parts for these cars and still try to emulate the stock look or performance.

I think you'll be just fine.

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post Oct 21 2017, 10:30 AM
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I want everybody to know...and I don't know how it was done...but I didn't edit my first post in this thread making the recommendations. I thoroughly read through the brochure and did contact Ed personally with several phone calls. According to my notes and conversations this is the one for a 74 D-jet system. The vacuum port is optional.

Whoops, that was me. I thought it would be helpful to put all the info up front. Your post above has made me rethink that practice. I should have at least PM'd you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pinch.gif) Sorry! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
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post Oct 21 2017, 11:27 AM
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It.s okay Mark....figured (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Just placed my order for the Bluetooth model for the engine I am currently rebuilding for my 1976 Porsche 912E. It is bored and stroked to 2270 (based upon the Raby 912E engines). Hope we get to the 15% Discount!!!
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Ordered my D-Jet unit today. This will be interesting too, once we all get ours and install, to hear the various experiences.

Still not totally clear to me if I should be connecting the vac advance or retard lines, since the 76 has both, but this has to be a good step in the right direction. I will get my hands on a spare distributor clamp, and leave my original all timed and in the tool bag. That way if there are any issues (all electronic guys, functionality is usually binary, either works or doesn't) I have a spare to drop in at side of the road.

Looking forward to getting mine. Now to go count how many have ordered to see if we are going to hit the 15% number!
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Ordered my D-Jet unit today. This will be interesting too, once we all get ours and install, to hear the various experiences.

Still not totally clear to me if I should be connecting the vac advance or retard lines, since the 76 has both, but this has to be a good step in the right direction. I will get my hands on a spare distributor clamp, and leave my original all timed and in the tool bag. That way if there are any issues (all electronic guys, functionality is usually binary, either works or doesn't) I have a spare to drop in at side of the road.

Looking forward to getting mine. Now to go count how many have ordered to see if we are going to hit the 15% number!



Pretty sure we have five now.

With respect to the advance or retard question read Brad Anders site and then the instruction manual.

It is interesting and will answer your question.

I will also end up with a spare distributor..."just in case".
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post Oct 21 2017, 08:00 PM
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Just talked to Ed today- probably don't need the bluetooth option but may get it to have for the future. Just need to make sure that model has the 16 or so preset advance curves in it if I don't need or want to get "fancy" right off the bat.
Not sure I'm smart enough to use the bluetooth option anyway! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Ordered for my D-Jet stock Also have one for my Volvo ES
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post Oct 21 2017, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(914_teener @ Oct 21 2017, 01:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Morrie @ Oct 21 2017, 12:04 PM) *

Ordered my D-Jet unit today. This will be interesting too, once we all get ours and install, to hear the various experiences.

Still not totally clear to me if I should be connecting the vac advance or retard lines, since the 76 has both, but this has to be a good step in the right direction. I will get my hands on a spare distributor clamp, and leave my original all timed and in the tool bag. That way if there are any issues (all electronic guys, functionality is usually binary, either works or doesn't) I have a spare to drop in at side of the road.

Looking forward to getting mine. Now to go count how many have ordered to see if we are going to hit the 15% number!



Pretty sure we have five now.

With respect to the advance or retard question read Brad Anders site and then the instruction manual.

It is interesting and will answer your question.

I will also end up with a spare distributor..."just in case".



That was a good read ! Thanks for sharing.
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post Oct 21 2017, 10:58 PM
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Just ordered mine, Bluetooth version for my L-Jet 1.8

Order people !, need that additional 5% !!!
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With respect to the advance or retard question read Brad Anders site and then the instruction manual.

It is interesting and will answer your question.


Thanks for the good advice here. After reading Brad's page on distributors, and looking at the 123 manual again, it seems pretty clear that there are no performance advantages to connecting the vacuum retard. It was to improve emissions results, and only served to degrade performance at low speeds until the throttle was opened enough to take it out of the equation.

The 123 manual page shows that there is a single vacuum port that can be electronically configured to either provide vacuum advance (settings 1-8) or vacuum retard (settings 9-F). That probably leaves settings 1-8 as the viable options, aside from capping off the vacuum port entirely.

Thanks again for the good advice. Appreciate it!
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Just ordered mine, Bluetooth version for my L-Jet 1.8

Order people !, need that additional 5% !!!


I count 8, maybe 9 ordered right now....... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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I thought this distributor looked familiar. I ran across this 914 install a few months ago on YouTube. How's everyone's German!?
https://youtu.be/rw1FigYoozE
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For those have the programmable units already, any tests using a stock curve and then a "tuned" curve following 123ignitions lessons?


http://123ignitionusa.com/123ignition-lessons/
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I thought this distributor looked familiar. I ran across this 914 install a few months ago on YouTube. How's everyone's German!?
https://youtu.be/rw1FigYoozE
I understood the eins, zwei, drei perfectly - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

He posted a second video ... and you can see those awesome ATS Classic wheels on his car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)
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Can someone post a link to Brad's write-up on these distributors - gotta make sure I ordered the correct one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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QUOTE(1adam12 @ Oct 22 2017, 11:47 AM) *

I thought this distributor looked familiar. I ran across this 914 install a few months ago on YouTube. How's everyone's German!?
https://youtu.be/rw1FigYoozE



I think it's Dutch, but I could be wrong.
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