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> 123 Distributor Group Buy Thread, Replacement for NLA stock Dizzy's-Order 15 % Discount
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post Oct 21 2017, 11:27 AM
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post Oct 21 2017, 11:41 AM
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Just placed my order for the Bluetooth model for the engine I am currently rebuilding for my 1976 Porsche 912E. It is bored and stroked to 2270 (based upon the Raby 912E engines). Hope we get to the 15% Discount!!!
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post Oct 21 2017, 01:04 PM
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Ordered my D-Jet unit today. This will be interesting too, once we all get ours and install, to hear the various experiences.

Still not totally clear to me if I should be connecting the vac advance or retard lines, since the 76 has both, but this has to be a good step in the right direction. I will get my hands on a spare distributor clamp, and leave my original all timed and in the tool bag. That way if there are any issues (all electronic guys, functionality is usually binary, either works or doesn't) I have a spare to drop in at side of the road.

Looking forward to getting mine. Now to go count how many have ordered to see if we are going to hit the 15% number!
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post Oct 21 2017, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(Morrie @ Oct 21 2017, 12:04 PM) *

Ordered my D-Jet unit today. This will be interesting too, once we all get ours and install, to hear the various experiences.

Still not totally clear to me if I should be connecting the vac advance or retard lines, since the 76 has both, but this has to be a good step in the right direction. I will get my hands on a spare distributor clamp, and leave my original all timed and in the tool bag. That way if there are any issues (all electronic guys, functionality is usually binary, either works or doesn't) I have a spare to drop in at side of the road.

Looking forward to getting mine. Now to go count how many have ordered to see if we are going to hit the 15% number!



Pretty sure we have five now.

With respect to the advance or retard question read Brad Anders site and then the instruction manual.

It is interesting and will answer your question.

I will also end up with a spare distributor..."just in case".
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post Oct 21 2017, 08:00 PM
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Just talked to Ed today- probably don't need the bluetooth option but may get it to have for the future. Just need to make sure that model has the 16 or so preset advance curves in it if I don't need or want to get "fancy" right off the bat.
Not sure I'm smart enough to use the bluetooth option anyway! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 21 2017, 08:17 PM
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Ordered for my D-Jet stock Also have one for my Volvo ES
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post Oct 21 2017, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(914_teener @ Oct 21 2017, 01:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Morrie @ Oct 21 2017, 12:04 PM) *

Ordered my D-Jet unit today. This will be interesting too, once we all get ours and install, to hear the various experiences.

Still not totally clear to me if I should be connecting the vac advance or retard lines, since the 76 has both, but this has to be a good step in the right direction. I will get my hands on a spare distributor clamp, and leave my original all timed and in the tool bag. That way if there are any issues (all electronic guys, functionality is usually binary, either works or doesn't) I have a spare to drop in at side of the road.

Looking forward to getting mine. Now to go count how many have ordered to see if we are going to hit the 15% number!



Pretty sure we have five now.

With respect to the advance or retard question read Brad Anders site and then the instruction manual.

It is interesting and will answer your question.

I will also end up with a spare distributor..."just in case".



That was a good read ! Thanks for sharing.
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post Oct 21 2017, 10:58 PM
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Just ordered mine, Bluetooth version for my L-Jet 1.8

Order people !, need that additional 5% !!!
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post Oct 22 2017, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(914_teener @ Oct 21 2017, 03:04 PM) *
With respect to the advance or retard question read Brad Anders site and then the instruction manual.

It is interesting and will answer your question.


Thanks for the good advice here. After reading Brad's page on distributors, and looking at the 123 manual again, it seems pretty clear that there are no performance advantages to connecting the vacuum retard. It was to improve emissions results, and only served to degrade performance at low speeds until the throttle was opened enough to take it out of the equation.

The 123 manual page shows that there is a single vacuum port that can be electronically configured to either provide vacuum advance (settings 1-8) or vacuum retard (settings 9-F). That probably leaves settings 1-8 as the viable options, aside from capping off the vacuum port entirely.

Thanks again for the good advice. Appreciate it!
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post Oct 22 2017, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(pete000 @ Oct 21 2017, 11:58 PM) *

Just ordered mine, Bluetooth version for my L-Jet 1.8

Order people !, need that additional 5% !!!


I count 8, maybe 9 ordered right now....... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Oct 22 2017, 12:47 PM
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I thought this distributor looked familiar. I ran across this 914 install a few months ago on YouTube. How's everyone's German!?
https://youtu.be/rw1FigYoozE
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post Oct 22 2017, 03:51 PM
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For those have the programmable units already, any tests using a stock curve and then a "tuned" curve following 123ignitions lessons?


http://123ignitionusa.com/123ignition-lessons/
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QUOTE(1adam12 @ Oct 22 2017, 11:47 AM) *
I thought this distributor looked familiar. I ran across this 914 install a few months ago on YouTube. How's everyone's German!?
https://youtu.be/rw1FigYoozE
I understood the eins, zwei, drei perfectly - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

He posted a second video ... and you can see those awesome ATS Classic wheels on his car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)
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Can someone post a link to Brad's write-up on these distributors - gotta make sure I ordered the correct one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Oct 22 2017, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(1adam12 @ Oct 22 2017, 11:47 AM) *

I thought this distributor looked familiar. I ran across this 914 install a few months ago on YouTube. How's everyone's German!?
https://youtu.be/rw1FigYoozE



I think it's Dutch, but I could be wrong.
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post Oct 22 2017, 10:05 PM
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Can some one post the stock ignition curves for the 1.7, 1.8, and the 2.0
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post Oct 22 2017, 10:39 PM
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Can some one post the stock ignition curves for the 1.7, 1.8, and the 2.0



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post Oct 22 2017, 10:49 PM
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https://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/distributor.htm

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Been a while since I pulled that data out of the factory diagrams, but I think I converted the RPMs to engine RPM, not distributor RPM. (Dizzy turns at half speed.) I don't think I did anything to the advance/retard figures, though.

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