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jim_hoyland
post Oct 19 2017, 10:53 AM
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When drive 10-15 mph on a local street that's not newly paved I get feedback up the steering shaft. It sounds like something is not tight. The steering wheel end has little play and the car has new shocks.

Any thought on where I should be looking ?

11/13/17 Update: turned out to be the top nut on the new Bilsteins was not tight,
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SirAndy
post Oct 19 2017, 10:58 AM
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The rubber donut that connects the shaft to the rack can wear out.
The play on the wheel can be cured with a sleeve.
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post Oct 19 2017, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 19 2017, 09:58 AM) *

The rubber donut that connects the shaft to the rack can wear out.
The play on the wheel can be cured with a sleeve.
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Which sleeve? Is there a part #? Sorry, I'm lazy...
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post Oct 19 2017, 11:29 AM
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As far as I know the sleeve is specific to a 75 or 76 914.
Pelican sells it.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/928-...amp;SVSVSI=.htm

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post Oct 19 2017, 11:49 AM
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Steve - perfect! Mine's a 75 and currently has a bit of a wobble...
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post Oct 19 2017, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(Steve @ Oct 19 2017, 10:29 AM) *
As far as I know the sleeve is specific to a 75 or 76 914.
Pelican sells it.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/928-...amp;SVSVSI=.htm

Hmmm, mine looks a lot different, it's sort of corrugated and tapered. It really snugs up the bearing and shaft.
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post Oct 19 2017, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 19 2017, 09:58 AM) *

The rubber donut that connects the shaft to the rack can wear out.
The play on the wheel can be cured with a sleeve.
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OK: If I remove the gas tank, what do I want to look for ?
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post Oct 19 2017, 01:04 PM
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It’s a PIA... even if you remove the tank, there is a plastic cover that cannot be removed without dropping the rack. I cut mine off to replace the doughnut shaped bushing. My bushing was fine, but I replaced it anyway.
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post Oct 19 2017, 01:19 PM
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So it’s only accessible from under the car ?
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post Oct 19 2017, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(Steve @ Oct 19 2017, 12:04 PM) *
It’s a PIA... even if you remove the tank, there is a plastic cover that cannot be removed without dropping the rack.

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You can, however, drop the whole rack without removing the tank
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post Oct 19 2017, 02:14 PM
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What else needs to be disconnected before dropping the rack ?
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post Oct 19 2017, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Oct 19 2017, 01:14 PM) *
What else needs to be disconnected before dropping the rack ?

Since ball joints are a royal pain in the buttocks, especially if you don't have the correct tools for them, i find it easier to just drop the whole front end.

A-arms and rack and wheels and shocks and all that.

Like this:

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post Oct 19 2017, 04:46 PM
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Leave the calipers with the chassis.
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Oct 19 2017, 03:46 PM) *
Leave the calipers with the chassis.

Good point!
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 19 2017, 04:39 PM) *

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Oct 19 2017, 01:14 PM) *
What else needs to be disconnected before dropping the rack ?

Since ball joints are a royal pain in the buttocks, especially if you don't have the correct tools for them, i find it easier to just drop the whole front end.

A-arms and rack and wheels and shocks and all that.

Like this:

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Awesome!
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It was caused by a loose top nut on the driver side shock.
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post Nov 14 2017, 09:36 AM
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Interesting... I had a knock coming from the front suspension, when I hit an uneven corner, speed bump, etc. I thought it was something in the sway bar. Took a lot of crap apart to find out the top nut was also loose on the top of my strut. I think the washer is supposed to be bent up to prevent the nut from moving. Both of my washers were flat. After torquing the nuts, i bent the washer up on both nuts, so it doesn't happen again.
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QUOTE(Steve @ Nov 14 2017, 07:36 AM) *

Interesting... I had a knock coming from the front suspension, when I hit an uneven corner, speed bump, etc. I thought it was something in the sway bar. Took a lot of crap apart to find out the top nut was also loose on the top of my strut. I think the washer is supposed to be bent up to prevent the nut from moving. Both of my washers were flat. After torquing the nuts, i bent the washer up on both nuts, so it doesn't happen again.


Does the washer have ears on it ? I didn’t notice any on my new front struts. I may Apply some blue loktite

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QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Nov 14 2017, 12:47 PM) *

QUOTE(Steve @ Nov 14 2017, 07:36 AM) *

Interesting... I had a knock coming from the front suspension, when I hit an uneven corner, speed bump, etc. I thought it was something in the sway bar. Took a lot of crap apart to find out the top nut was also loose on the top of my strut. I think the washer is supposed to be bent up to prevent the nut from moving. Both of my washers were flat. After torquing the nuts, i bent the washer up on both nuts, so it doesn't happen again.


Does the washer have ears on it ? I didn’t notice any on my new front struts. I may Apply some blue loktite

It shows it in the manual.
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post Nov 14 2017, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Nov 14 2017, 03:47 PM) *

QUOTE(Steve @ Nov 14 2017, 07:36 AM) *

Interesting... I had a knock coming from the front suspension, when I hit an uneven corner, speed bump, etc. I thought it was something in the sway bar. Took a lot of crap apart to find out the top nut was also loose on the top of my strut. I think the washer is supposed to be bent up to prevent the nut from moving. Both of my washers were flat. After torquing the nuts, i bent the washer up on both nuts, so it doesn't happen again.


Does the washer have ears on it ? I didn’t notice any on my new front struts. I may Apply some blue loktite


It does not have ears.
It has a tab that engages a slot on the strut shaft.
After tightening the nut the washer edge is pried up against one of the 'flats' of the nut.
Yes, you can use locktite
The strut shaft can be kept from turning by grabbing the beefy washer on top with a big Channelock
Not pretty but it works

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