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> Time for new tires, Suggestions please , summer tires or so cal tires
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post Oct 31 2017, 01:51 PM
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Narrow or stock body fenders Car , 4 bolt real fuchs or 2liter wheels

Has 195/60r 15 on it now
Netto touring front (still tread enough but are like 8 years old )
Continental touring rear ( tread is pretty low also old but in good shape)


I beginning to realize a tire failure on these cars could be especially dangerous



Cause lets face it a 914 gets driven harder then
A toyota



I dont want to roll the fender lips and the clearance with current tire size is already tight


Budget pretty wide open since i want something reliable or high quality ?

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3 pages of discussion on tires? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) No debate here!. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)

There is no right answer and getting useful technical information on tires is near impossible unless you have access to a flat track tire measurement rig like the OEM and tire manufacturers use.



I've found large disparity and information between Tire Rack (or any of the on-line tire retailer) reviews and what I know to be the case from flat track data I have access to. Not to say they aren't worth reading but don't take them as gospel but general crowd sourced data.

To compound matters, any particular tire brand or model can have several different compounds, tire constructions, and manufacturing plants. Even though externally they appear to be the exact same tire, they are not. Coefficient of friction (mu) varies, stiffness of the side wall (i.e. cornering stiffness) can all vary to a large degree even though the tires look the same.

Three bits of information that can be highly useful:

1) DOT codes. This is like the tire fingerprint. A unique code is assigned for each unique tire construction.. When I have to go get tires out of our tire storage areas, I'm looking at DOT codes to make sure I have the right tires for a given test. The DOT date code also tells when it was manufactured. Beware of local tire dealers if they don't move volume. No sense in buying a "new" tire that is really 4 years old and has been sitting in a hot warehouse. Likewise, verify the DOT code is the same on all four tires. I've seen tire stores deliver 3 of one code and the 4th of another. This is not good! It took about 1/2 hour of argument with the tire store to get them to address it and only then it was after I had to explain to them what a DOT code is. Scary!

2) UTQG codes.
Pick tires with Traction and Temperature grades A, they will be better tires than those with B or C as a generalization.

2A) Treadwear code is a part of the UTQG code. The lower the Treadwear number, the less life you'll get but likewise that typically is due to the tire having more GRIP. Summer tires will be quite low, but the grip is amazing. I used to Run Bridgestone RE-71 as a DOT legal autocross tires which at the time were rated Treadwear= 71. I used to get about 12,000 miles (i.e. two summers). They were so grippy and picked up so much road debris they eventually sandblasted the rockers on my Miata.



Here is a good Tire Rack primer on what UTQG codes are.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/tec...p;affiliate=HM5

Here is how to read the DOT Date code.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/tec...e.jsp?techid=11

Decoder of DOT code manufacturing locations
http://www.tiresafetygroup.com/tire-dot-pl...d-manufacturer/
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thelogo   Time for new tires   Oct 31 2017, 01:51 PM
mepstein   See whats available in 195x65x15 or 205x60x15 unle...   Oct 31 2017, 02:10 PM
johnhora   www.tirerack.com is a good place to start some res...   Oct 31 2017, 02:29 PM
thelogo   www.tirerack.com is a good place to start some re...   Oct 31 2017, 02:40 PM
mepstein   www.tirerack.com is a good place to start some r...   Oct 31 2017, 02:47 PM
thelogo   This place is right down the road from me Coke...   Oct 31 2017, 02:49 PM
mgphoto   This place is right down the road from me Cok...   Oct 31 2017, 03:17 PM
ThreeV8s   I bought Firestone Firehawk AS tires last week tha...   Oct 31 2017, 02:32 PM
GeorgeRud   Tire Rack is a great source and can have the tires...   Oct 31 2017, 02:48 PM
JOEPROPER   Conti Pro Contacts on mine. P195/65R15. They wor...   Oct 31 2017, 02:54 PM
My 914   I have always had good luck with Tire Rack going b...   Oct 31 2017, 03:02 PM
thelogo   These are cool https://simpletire.com/dunlop-p195...   Oct 31 2017, 03:09 PM
mgphoto   These are cool https://simpletire.com/dunlop-p19...   Oct 31 2017, 03:22 PM
thelogo   [quote name='thelogo' post='2543969' date='Oct 31...   Oct 31 2017, 06:35 PM
ThreeV8s   [quote name='thelogo' post='2543969' date='Oct 31...   Oct 31 2017, 07:19 PM
arne   [quote name='thelogo' post='2543969' date='Oct 3...   Oct 31 2017, 08:42 PM
ThreeV8s   [quote name='ThreeV8s' post='2544083' date='Oct 3...   Nov 1 2017, 10:12 AM
scott_in_nh   [quote name='ThreeV8s' post='2544083' date='Oct ...   Dec 3 2018, 03:45 PM
Wyvern   [quote name='thelogo' post='2543969' date='Oct 31...   Dec 6 2018, 01:33 PM
scott_in_nh   [quote name='thelogo' post='2543969' date='Oct 3...   Dec 6 2018, 05:42 PM
Larmo63   205/60s look a little like donuts on a 4 lug Fuchs...   Oct 31 2017, 03:13 PM
arne   205/60s look a little like donuts on a 4 lug Fuch...   Oct 31 2017, 03:52 PM
GregAmy   I agonized over sizes for a couple months. Did the...   Oct 31 2017, 03:44 PM
DM_2000   *From various source, our original 15" size...   Oct 31 2017, 05:08 PM
Coondog   Just go to America’s Tire, look at all there cho...   Oct 31 2017, 04:22 PM
mmichalik   I decided to run Pirelli P4 195-65-15's on min...   Oct 31 2017, 06:00 PM
thelogo   This look cool and expensive My luck they would...   Oct 31 2017, 06:55 PM
914 7T3   The majority of my tire purchases are from Tire Ra...   Oct 31 2017, 08:28 PM
infraredcalvin   problem with online order is that you still have t...   Nov 1 2017, 12:09 AM
thelogo   Just seem to me like everyone here has settled Fo...   Nov 1 2017, 02:49 PM
arne   Just seem to me like everyone here has settled F...   Nov 1 2017, 03:26 PM
thelogo   Shout out to the cheap sob   Nov 1 2017, 02:49 PM
thelogo   Yeh i wouldn't think a 911 in w.Oregon winter ...   Nov 1 2017, 10:38 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   195/65x15 for handling and overall performance, 16...   Dec 3 2018, 03:54 PM
thelogo   I ended up with cooper cs4 s 195,65,15   Dec 3 2018, 07:33 PM
JamesM   Im thinking of giving these a shot when my bumbleb...   Dec 4 2018, 01:24 AM
euro911   I typically ran 195/65-15 on 5.5" wheels on t...   Dec 4 2018, 01:48 AM
Racer   The only real "performance" tires are 20...   Dec 4 2018, 06:50 AM
scott_in_nh   The only real "performance" tires are 2...   Dec 4 2018, 08:57 AM
rhodyguy   The RT43s are also available in 185/65r15 at reaso...   Dec 4 2018, 03:44 PM
euro911   Comparisons ... Dry & wet roads: https://www...   Dec 4 2018, 04:38 PM
bandjoey   Continental PureContact™ Good buy at Discount Ti...   Dec 4 2018, 04:48 PM
thelogo   Continental PureContact™ Good buy at Discount T...   Dec 4 2018, 05:24 PM
euro911   [quote name='bandjoey' post='2671038']Continental ...   Dec 4 2018, 05:46 PM
74 sunflower 914   There are some decent performance-oriented tires i...   Dec 4 2018, 05:33 PM
GeorgeRud   Of all places, I checked Walmart’s site and they...   Dec 4 2018, 05:39 PM
scott_in_nh   So after taking a deeper dive and reaching out to ...   Dec 6 2018, 10:26 AM
JFG   i have avon zt5's on mine. stick to the road l...   Dec 6 2018, 10:44 AM
Jamie   I have been running Michelin Pilot Exalto 205x65x1...   Dec 6 2018, 11:09 AM
VaccaRabite   I have been running Michelin Pilot Exalto 205x65x...   Dec 7 2018, 07:45 AM
RolinkHaus   Anyone have an opinion on these? Looking to fit 1...   Dec 6 2018, 03:07 PM
scott_in_nh   Anyone have an opinion on these? Looking to fit ...   Dec 6 2018, 05:40 PM
Cairo94507   Well....since I am going to be picking up my wheel...   Dec 7 2018, 07:48 AM
mepstein   Well....since I am going to be picking up my whee...   Dec 7 2018, 08:00 AM
horizontally-opposed   Well....since I am going to be picking up my whee...   Dec 7 2018, 04:10 PM
steuspeed   What don't you like about the CR6ZZ for street...   Dec 7 2018, 05:48 PM
steuspeed   .   Dec 7 2018, 05:49 PM
Cairo94507   So maybe, if it can be found, a 215x60x15? I like...   Dec 7 2018, 09:17 AM
scott_in_nh   So maybe, if it can be found, a 215x60x15? I lik...   Dec 7 2018, 09:23 AM
BENBRO02   I bought a set of Yokohama Advan Fleva 205-55-15s ...   Oct 5 2019, 03:44 PM
Superhawk996   3 pages of discussion on tires? :lol4: No debat...   Oct 6 2019, 08:19 AM
Superhawk996   I beginning to realize a tire failure on these ...   Oct 6 2019, 08:30 AM
thelogo   [quote name='thelogo' post='2543934' date='Oct 31...   Oct 6 2019, 04:39 PM
Superhawk996   Im much more about active saftey then passive s...   Oct 6 2019, 06:55 PM
Literati914   I really, really want 205/60R15 tires and I need t...   Oct 6 2019, 06:03 PM


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