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> LAST, LAST CALL - PHOTOS - 2018 914 Calendar
Mike Fitton
post Nov 3 2017, 07:59 AM
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Ok this needs to be said. First I am in the printing business I know what it costs to produce a calendar like this and it is nowhere near $13, so Steve you need to stop insisting that all your projects are for the love of the 914 and they are all break even. All of your projects including T-Shirts are "for profit" I know what it costs to make t-shirts also. The booth you had setup last year at Ockteenerfest with several different items for sale, were those all priced to break even too? I am going to guess that the magazine had started to go south and was starting to become a loser money wise so it was shelved. I don't think you should be allowed to sell anything on this site until everyone that is owed money from the magazine is taken care of.
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post Nov 3 2017, 08:15 AM
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Interesting....
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post Nov 3 2017, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE(JOEPROPER @ Nov 3 2017, 08:36 AM) *

I don't have any photos to submit, but would love for the calendar project to continue. Thanks.


Me too!
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post Nov 3 2017, 08:26 AM
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My calendar submission:

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post Nov 3 2017, 08:36 AM
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Here's mine
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post Nov 3 2017, 08:47 AM
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If not Steve, then someone make a calendar... maybe we get 12 good shots and email them to whomever wants a calendar, go to WALGREENS.com and make your own calendar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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post Nov 3 2017, 08:54 AM
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Here's a picture of my car that SB914 took
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post Nov 3 2017, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(Mike Fitton @ Nov 3 2017, 09:59 AM) *

Ok this needs to be said. First I am in the printing business I know what it costs to produce a calendar like this and it is nowhere near $13, so Steve you need to stop insisting that all your projects are for the love of the 914 and they are all break even. All of your projects including T-Shirts are "for profit" I know what it costs to make t-shirts also. The booth you had setup last year at Ockteenerfest with several different items for sale, were those all priced to break even too? I am going to guess that the magazine had started to go south and was starting to become a loser money wise so it was shelved. I don't think you should be allowed to sell anything on this site until everyone that is owed money from the magazine is taken care of.


I started to post something as well but figured that since I wouldn't be buying a calendar or anything I wouldn't jump in. But, I'm glad you did because Steve's response has been eating at me.

First...let me say that I understand Steve's time is worth something. However, playing the martyr is ridiculous. Just a quick search on the web shows you can get 200 11x17 calendars (which, I believe is bigger than the calendar Steve is selling) with spiral binding on the best quality paper available for around $5.50 each. Smaller 8.5x11 calendars are as low as $3.50 each.

If Steve wants to have a business selling calendars where members do all the work by providing pictures, selecting the best ones, etc. then by all means have at it. The world needs more Tom Sawyers charging people to paint their fence. Just be honest about the motive.
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post Nov 3 2017, 09:01 AM
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Here you go

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post Nov 3 2017, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(Mike Fitton @ Nov 3 2017, 09:59 AM) *

Ok this needs to be said. First I am in the printing business I know what it costs to produce a calendar like this and it is nowhere near $13, so Steve you need to stop insisting that all your projects are for the love of the 914 and they are all break even. All of your projects including T-Shirts are "for profit" I know what it costs to make t-shirts also. The booth you had setup last year at Ockteenerfest with several different items for sale, were those all priced to break even too? I am going to guess that the magazine had started to go south and was starting to become a loser money wise so it was shelved. I don't think you should be allowed to sell anything on this site until everyone that is owed money from the magazine is taken care of.


I'm not in the printing but am a user of the printing business. I am the editing director for a specific car marque/model registry's magazine. We publish around 750 issues every quarter and ship to US and around 20 countries world wide. Distribution is one of the easiest aspects of publishing. The printer actually performs that job for you. You simply provide the mailing list for each issue. It's not rocket science.

Once again, if you aren't making the money you expected just say so. No on expects you to continue a money losing proposition.
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post Nov 3 2017, 09:17 AM
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I like the calendars!! If $13.00 is too much don't buy one. If someone else wants to step up to the plate and also do it, have at it. When you don't have any competition you can charge as much as you want within reason. Up to the admins if they want to support this or force some of the profits to charity like the advertisements.
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post Nov 3 2017, 09:34 AM
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Cruising around Greenville's old Textile Plants, looking for a brewery! 4 hour drive and my tires still look good. Love the aerospace 303.

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post Nov 3 2017, 09:41 AM
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post Nov 3 2017, 09:54 AM
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Good morning Steve, I'd be in for a few calendars and here'e my submission. Best, MarkAttached Image
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post Nov 3 2017, 10:58 AM
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I’ll pitch in
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post Nov 3 2017, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(billh1963 @ Nov 3 2017, 07:57 AM) *

First...let me say that I understand Steve's time is worth something. However, playing the martyr is ridiculous. Just a quick search on the web shows you can get 200 11x17 calendars (which, I believe is bigger than the calendar Steve is selling) with spiral binding on the best quality paper available for around $5.50 each. Smaller 8.5x11 calendars are as low as $3.50 each.


You left out postage of a couple bucks.

I used to do the local PCA newsletter thus I can relate, so if Steve "profits" $3 from each of the 100 calendars that works out to roughly $100 a day for his time. Do you really expect him, or any other person, to work strictly for free? I didn't get paid, not even dinner, I did it partly to fatten my graphic design portfolio.

I'm bummed the mag didn't work out. It was way more ambitious then anything I would have done. That level of quality demands a full time job.

If a calendar is printed I will buy one for the office as usual. I don't care how "late" it is as I use it for motivation (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post Nov 3 2017, 12:25 PM
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I’ll pitch in
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Dave - IMO, you built the best looking 914 on the planet...
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post Nov 3 2017, 12:26 PM
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Here's my offer....

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post Nov 3 2017, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Nov 3 2017, 02:25 PM) *

QUOTE(914dave @ Nov 3 2017, 09:58 AM) *

I’ll pitch in
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Dave - IMO, you built the best looking 914 on the planet...
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And it's even more spectacular in person. Got to hang with Dave and his car at the air-cooled event in NJ last month...

mad props to ya (as the kids say).
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QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Nov 3 2017, 10:47 AM) *

If not Steve, then someone make a calendar... maybe we get 12 good shots and email them to whomever wants a calendar, go to WALGREENS.com and make your own calendar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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I don't know about you guys, but I honestly can't remember the last time I had a paper calendar anywhere near me or my office. What about a Flickr-style photo book commemorating "the year in 914s". We can get a 5 x 7 soft cover with 20 pages for under 15 bucks. Or a beautiful 8 x 10 hardcover suitable for even Danny Thomas's coffee table for 35 bucks. Anyway, here's my submission...

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