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LAST, LAST CALL - PHOTOS - 2018 914 Calendar |
Mike Fitton |
Nov 3 2017, 07:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 13-May 11 From: Chicago Area Member No.: 13,069 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Ok this needs to be said. First I am in the printing business I know what it costs to produce a calendar like this and it is nowhere near $13, so Steve you need to stop insisting that all your projects are for the love of the 914 and they are all break even. All of your projects including T-Shirts are "for profit" I know what it costs to make t-shirts also. The booth you had setup last year at Ockteenerfest with several different items for sale, were those all priced to break even too? I am going to guess that the magazine had started to go south and was starting to become a loser money wise so it was shelved. I don't think you should be allowed to sell anything on this site until everyone that is owed money from the magazine is taken care of.
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rhodyguy |
Nov 3 2017, 08:15 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,054 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Interesting....
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mobymutt |
Nov 3 2017, 08:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 16-December 13 From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 16,770 Region Association: Canada |
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saigon71 |
Nov 3 2017, 08:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,994 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Dillsburg, PA Member No.: 10,428 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
My calendar submission:
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Steve |
Nov 3 2017, 08:36 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,565 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
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malcolm2 |
Nov 3 2017, 08:47 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,738 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States |
If not Steve, then someone make a calendar... maybe we get 12 good shots and email them to whomever wants a calendar, go to WALGREENS.com and make your own calendar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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Steve |
Nov 3 2017, 08:54 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,565 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
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billh1963 |
Nov 3 2017, 08:57 AM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,402 Joined: 28-March 11 From: South Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
Ok this needs to be said. First I am in the printing business I know what it costs to produce a calendar like this and it is nowhere near $13, so Steve you need to stop insisting that all your projects are for the love of the 914 and they are all break even. All of your projects including T-Shirts are "for profit" I know what it costs to make t-shirts also. The booth you had setup last year at Ockteenerfest with several different items for sale, were those all priced to break even too? I am going to guess that the magazine had started to go south and was starting to become a loser money wise so it was shelved. I don't think you should be allowed to sell anything on this site until everyone that is owed money from the magazine is taken care of. I started to post something as well but figured that since I wouldn't be buying a calendar or anything I wouldn't jump in. But, I'm glad you did because Steve's response has been eating at me. First...let me say that I understand Steve's time is worth something. However, playing the martyr is ridiculous. Just a quick search on the web shows you can get 200 11x17 calendars (which, I believe is bigger than the calendar Steve is selling) with spiral binding on the best quality paper available for around $5.50 each. Smaller 8.5x11 calendars are as low as $3.50 each. If Steve wants to have a business selling calendars where members do all the work by providing pictures, selecting the best ones, etc. then by all means have at it. The world needs more Tom Sawyers charging people to paint their fence. Just be honest about the motive. |
ValcoOscar |
Nov 3 2017, 09:01 AM
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Garage Life Group: Members Posts: 2,372 Joined: 19-November 13 From: SoCal Member No.: 16,669 Region Association: Southern California |
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billh1963 |
Nov 3 2017, 09:05 AM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,402 Joined: 28-March 11 From: South Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
Ok this needs to be said. First I am in the printing business I know what it costs to produce a calendar like this and it is nowhere near $13, so Steve you need to stop insisting that all your projects are for the love of the 914 and they are all break even. All of your projects including T-Shirts are "for profit" I know what it costs to make t-shirts also. The booth you had setup last year at Ockteenerfest with several different items for sale, were those all priced to break even too? I am going to guess that the magazine had started to go south and was starting to become a loser money wise so it was shelved. I don't think you should be allowed to sell anything on this site until everyone that is owed money from the magazine is taken care of. I'm not in the printing but am a user of the printing business. I am the editing director for a specific car marque/model registry's magazine. We publish around 750 issues every quarter and ship to US and around 20 countries world wide. Distribution is one of the easiest aspects of publishing. The printer actually performs that job for you. You simply provide the mailing list for each issue. It's not rocket science. Once again, if you aren't making the money you expected just say so. No on expects you to continue a money losing proposition. |
Steve |
Nov 3 2017, 09:17 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,565 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
I like the calendars!! If $13.00 is too much don't buy one. If someone else wants to step up to the plate and also do it, have at it. When you don't have any competition you can charge as much as you want within reason. Up to the admins if they want to support this or force some of the profits to charity like the advertisements.
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malcolm2 |
Nov 3 2017, 09:34 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,738 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States |
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rgolia |
Nov 3 2017, 09:41 AM
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GeoJoe Group: Members Posts: 703 Joined: 5-February 10 From: PA Member No.: 11,329 Region Association: North East States |
here you go
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mlindner |
Nov 3 2017, 09:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,509 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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914dave |
Nov 3 2017, 10:58 AM
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914 Addict Group: Members Posts: 700 Joined: 19-October 03 From: Willow Grove Pa. Member No.: 1,262 Region Association: North East States |
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Chris914n6 |
Nov 3 2017, 12:01 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,302 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
First...let me say that I understand Steve's time is worth something. However, playing the martyr is ridiculous. Just a quick search on the web shows you can get 200 11x17 calendars (which, I believe is bigger than the calendar Steve is selling) with spiral binding on the best quality paper available for around $5.50 each. Smaller 8.5x11 calendars are as low as $3.50 each. You left out postage of a couple bucks. I used to do the local PCA newsletter thus I can relate, so if Steve "profits" $3 from each of the 100 calendars that works out to roughly $100 a day for his time. Do you really expect him, or any other person, to work strictly for free? I didn't get paid, not even dinner, I did it partly to fatten my graphic design portfolio. I'm bummed the mag didn't work out. It was way more ambitious then anything I would have done. That level of quality demands a full time job. If a calendar is printed I will buy one for the office as usual. I don't care how "late" it is as I use it for motivation (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
tygaboy |
Nov 3 2017, 12:25 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,265 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Dave - IMO, you built the best looking 914 on the planet... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) |
Woodside914 |
Nov 3 2017, 12:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 170 Joined: 19-May 10 From: Woodside, CA Member No.: 11,743 Region Association: Northern California |
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iankarr |
Nov 3 2017, 01:15 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,471 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Dave - IMO, you built the best looking 914 on the planet... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) And it's even more spectacular in person. Got to hang with Dave and his car at the air-cooled event in NJ last month... mad props to ya (as the kids say). |
iankarr |
Nov 3 2017, 01:21 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,471 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
If not Steve, then someone make a calendar... maybe we get 12 good shots and email them to whomever wants a calendar, go to WALGREENS.com and make your own calendar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I don't know about you guys, but I honestly can't remember the last time I had a paper calendar anywhere near me or my office. What about a Flickr-style photo book commemorating "the year in 914s". We can get a 5 x 7 soft cover with 20 pages for under 15 bucks. Or a beautiful 8 x 10 hardcover suitable for even Danny Thomas's coffee table for 35 bucks. Anyway, here's my submission... |
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