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OT: Shop lighting with LED's |
saigon71 |
Nov 2 2017, 01:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,999 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Dillsburg, PA Member No.: 10,428 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
My brother & I are going to run power to my rear workshop. This is where my 914 hibernates during winter. I've decided to go with 4' LED lights.
https://www.samsclub.com/sams/linkable-shop...plp:product:1:1 My question is, how many should I buy for a 14 X 20 shop? My original thought was to run 2 banks of 2 lights (8ft each bank) longways in the non-loft area and surface mount two additional 4' fixtures under the loft. After reading about the brightness of these things, I think my original plan may be overkill and I'm wondering if just 2 lights in the main area and one under the loft would be better. Anyone running similar LED's that can offer guidance? Here's the setup: Main area: Loft: Under loft: |
JmuRiz |
Nov 2 2017, 02:13 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,432 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Your plan for 6 total lights should be fine. If not, you can always add more (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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914forme |
Nov 2 2017, 03:09 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
I have a 24 x 24 garage that I switched to LED this year. I have 6 2 tube units mounted over the middle of each to the car bays. Light up the garage like a champ. I was going to do the workshop which contains 54 tubes. The retrofit builds that I used to convert the T8 fixtures, will not work due to the tombstones used by the lighting manufacture. Ended up selling 50 of the tubes at half cost due to return shipping was going to kill me.
I will switch them at a later date, as I like them so much. But then I am getting older (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) and well the more light the better for me. |
johnhora |
Nov 2 2017, 03:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 866 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Derby City KY Member No.: 107 Region Association: None |
Bob...
If you have a Home Dept near you...check their LED utility lights...I was looking at them other day and they have quite a few varieties and some that put out pretty good lumens... Amazing out put for such a small foot print..they also had the linkable type.. |
mepstein |
Nov 2 2017, 03:54 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,295 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Do you have one in place for a work table. In addition to the built in lights, run lots of outlets so you can plug in led work lights and tools. Much of your work is in and under the car so you will need portable lighting. If you insulate it probable wouldn't take much of a heater to keep you comfortable.
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jtprettyman |
Nov 2 2017, 03:55 PM
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Rust Bucket Owner Group: Members Posts: 109 Joined: 5-May 15 From: Murfreesboro Tennessee Member No.: 18,707 Region Association: South East States |
This thread may be of interest, lots of LED and lighting info....
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278420 |
lalee914 |
Nov 2 2017, 04:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 13-February 13 From: Georgetown, DE Member No.: 15,521 Region Association: North East States |
My garage is 27 x 29 and I used 3 LED fixtures that put out 3400 Lumens each for a total of 10200 lumens which comes out to about 13 lumens/sq ft. That is about the same lighting level as in our kitchen. The 3 LEDs in the garage provide plenty of light for whatever I'm doing.
Your garage is 14 x 20 which is 280 sq ft. The fixtures you are looking at provide 4500 lumens each. 2 fixtures would provide 9000 lumens which would be about 32 lumens per square foot. 2 of these fixtures sound like a lot of overkill. If you want to put up 4 fixtures for better light distribution you can use much smaller fixtures. |
Evil Older Brother |
Nov 2 2017, 04:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 9-September 13 From: Whidbey Island Member No.: 16,367 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
26x28 detached garage and I have 6 of them in the main area and 1 over the bench. They came from Costco and help the old man eyes see.
In the new house, same size and will have the same number. |
DM_2000 |
Nov 2 2017, 06:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 217 Joined: 16-August 17 From: PA Member No.: 21,351 Region Association: None |
While not LED, I hung 2 4 ft fluro fixtures per side on the garage door track. Door up or down, same amount of light.
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ssuperflyoldguy |
Nov 2 2017, 07:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 173 Joined: 15-November 15 From: NorCal - East Bay Baby! Member No.: 19,364 Region Association: None |
everything is LED now. All the new construction projects we do are all LED. Even theatrical lights. The good thing is that you can jump the same fixtures usually so buy 1 n go from there. The bad thing is we are seeing the drivers (power supplies) failing all the time.
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Olympic 914 |
Nov 2 2017, 07:17 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,672 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States |
Bob
Have the same shed as you 14x20 I went with 4 leds in the main area and staggered them, then 3 more under the loft area. I used switched quad receptacles for the lights in the main area so I could add extra clamp on lights and just turn them on with the same switch. Also each light has its own pull chain so you can turn them off if you don't want to run them all. like when the garage door is open it blocks some of the lights so I can switch them off. I set mine up so I could paint without shadows, the clamp on lights helped here. But I like it really bright. It does heat the place up though even with LEDs |
forrestkhaag |
Nov 2 2017, 07:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 935 Joined: 21-April 14 From: Scottsdale, Arizona Member No.: 17,273 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I don't know about lighting but there are some damned fine garages out there! Not mine.
In Laguna Beach CaliFU, my next door neighbor ratted out my 12 year old carport (he moved in three years ago - blueblood never worked a day in his life) and the great and fine city made me pay double fines and double demo permit fees to take it down and remove it. My son and I painted my car in that shed. Larmo and I put the 911 front end in my car under the protection of that shed.. the engine that Drem914 has in his car today was installed in my car in that carport......... If interested in a really nice beach bungalow, please buy it......... We gone. https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/25140...fr/?view=public (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) Attached image(s) |
Montreal914 |
Nov 2 2017, 07:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,568 Joined: 8-August 10 From: Claremont, CA Member No.: 12,023 Region Association: Southern California |
26' x 20', 3 car garage.
Installed eight 4' 2 LED tube fixtures from Costco. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) The key is to install the fixtures in between the cars to prevent shadows and light up the area of interest. I'm very pleased with the result. |
Calwaterbear |
Nov 2 2017, 08:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 207 Joined: 15-November 14 From: United States Member No.: 18,123 Region Association: Central California |
I have a 24 X 24, used the costco double tubers 4 foot long fixtures, with the cord and plug in place. I think they were about 25 bucks each. Pulled out the old fixtures, wired in dual plugs, plugged in the lights - like working in the sunshine, plus I can drop power from any of t plug fixtures if I want too.
best upgrade i ever did in the garage |
76-914 |
Nov 2 2017, 08:37 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,505 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
You can't have too many lights. I have 6 4' LED's in my 2 car garage. So much nicer than the old fluorescents. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Zimms |
Nov 2 2017, 08:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,413 Joined: 11-February 06 From: Michigan Member No.: 5,565 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I have those exact lights in my 3 bay garage, I bought them from Sam's because of the 4500 lumen output rather than the 3700-3800 everywhere else. We love them. The garage is 26x36 with a 12 ft ceiling. I put one over each bay, so (3) 4' lights.
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mgphoto |
Nov 25 2017, 06:29 PM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
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RoadGlue |
Nov 25 2017, 09:45 PM
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Sonoma County Gear Head Group: Admin Posts: 2,033 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Santa Rosa, CA Member No.: 108 Region Association: Northern California |
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Mark Henry |
Nov 26 2017, 12:48 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Any one try the 8' bulbs?
I have 16 lights in my shop so 32 bulbs. I've seen prices all over the place on amazon. |
Dave_Darling |
Nov 26 2017, 12:58 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,990 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Conventional wisdom is that you can never have too much light in your shop...
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