Do you run harnesses on the street?, why wouldnt you? Options

[carr914]

I wear my harnesses ( I have a cage). The one thing that has always made me wonder is in the event of a front end collision, the Sparco seat and harnesses would keep me in place and physics would take over, the weight of my head would keep going, snapping my neck. It's called Basil-Skull fracture I believe. It's what took out Earnhart. This is what the Hans Device cures in a racing environment, but is unavailable in a street collision.
T.C.

[airsix]

QUOTE (carr914 @ May 27 2005, 07:22 AM)

...the weight of my head would keep going, snapping my neck. It's called Basil-Skull fracture I believe. It's what took out Earnhart. This is what the Hans Device cures in a racing environment, but is unavailable in a street collision. T.C.

Much less energy at street speeds. Just make sure you don't get into a 200mph collision with an imovable object and you'll probably do okay.

-Ben M.

[jimtab]

QUOTE (carr914 @ May 27 2005, 07:22 AM)

I wear my harnesses ( I have a cage). The one thing that has always made me wonder is in the event of a front end collision, the Sparco seat and harnesses would keep me in place and physics would take over, the weight of my head would keep going, snapping my neck. It's called Basil-Skull fracture I believe. It's what took out Earnhart. This is what the Hans Device cures in a racing environment, but is unavailable in a street collision. T.C.

In my opiinion what killed Dale Ernhart was the "culture" of NASCAR. The whole "rubbin is racin'" and general cowboy dipshit attitude is what kept the hans devices out of the cars for so long. I say if your dumb enough to drive 200mph without EVERY possible safety feature in place....well there you go.....

[ArtechnikA]

QUOTE (jimtab @ May 27 2005, 01:19 PM)

QUOTE (carr914 @ May 27 2005, 07:22 AM) It's called Basil-Skull fracture I believe. It's what took out Earnhart. In my opiinion what killed Dale Ernhart was the "culture" of NASCAR. ... I say if your dumb enough to drive 200mph without EVERY possible safety feature in place....well there you go...

"basal" (the base of the skull...)

as much as anything, the open-face helmet was a contributing factor. the "chinguard" section of a full-face helmet acts as a travel-limiter (like a HANS, to a much lesser degree...) to keep your head from over-rotating forward.

and that is but one reason why i won't wear an open-face helmet.

full-face helmets are hot, which presents other hazards - which is why i use forced-ventilation helmets. i have a Bell, but G-Force has one that's reasonably priced -- it's what i bought for my wife, and when my Bell times out in 2006 it's probably what i'll get for myself.

there were several contributing factors in the Earnhart fatality and had they not all stacked up the result may well have been different.

[Air_Cooled_Nut]

Here's my story:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1087277

In a nutshell: If the harness is FMVSS209 compliant then you're good.
My opinion on a harness in a non-caged vehicle: Shit, I ride a motorcycle, are you really gonna listen to me? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

[Air_Cooled_Nut]

Oh DUH (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) Now I go back and click on the the link ArtechnikA posted and it's mine (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) Just ignore me, I've been cooped up inside on this gorgeous Oregon day playing nanny to a 4 month-old girl (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)