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CG-914
post Nov 11 2017, 10:44 PM
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Last night on my commute home my '74 914 2.0 was hit in the rear by a Mercedes Sedan, the driver fled the scene (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) and my insurance company explained to me today, that yes, you are insured against uninsured drivers and therefore against hit and run accidents but only for medical expenses (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) , I guess next time I read the fine print better.

Now i need to fix the body and get a new paint job so I guess its time for the GT flares, 5 Lug conversion, Brake upgrade and Fuchs.

I do have some questions that I hope to get answered:

- Which are the best (probably steel) GT flares, also for the money?

- Where do I get the best fibreglass bumpers? GTracing?

- Do 8 inch fuchs fit in the rear?

- Whats the best spindle and hub to use in the front, I do want to run at least SC Calipers and the matching vented discs?

- What parts exactly of the 76/77 911 rear hub do I need for the rear conversion to five lug?

I know these are a lot of questions I hope you guys can help.

Thank you

Cornelius

PS Maybe somebody has seen something on the 91 west bound in LA on Friday around 6:50 pm?!

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post Nov 11 2017, 10:49 PM
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Sorry to hear about your accident and the screwing the insurance company is giving you. Good luck with the conversion.
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post Nov 11 2017, 11:00 PM
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Were you able to get a partial plate or anything descriptive?
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post Nov 11 2017, 11:03 PM
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That sucks.

Good luck with the repairs and upgrades.
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post Nov 12 2017, 06:02 AM
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Try Rich Johnson,(A914GUY). He has front hubs and brake, oil tanks and more for 914 conversion to six. Just a great guy. Best, Mark
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post Nov 12 2017, 06:24 AM
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If you can find original OEM steel flares they are the best. But they just are very rare.
Automobile Atlanta sell steel flares that are very good. Or you can post a WTB in the classifieds. That's pretty much it.

Rear 5 lug conversion is simple- Drill existing hubs and install a 5 lug rotor.
Eric at PMB can sell you these. WTB in the classifieds works also.

All sorts of threads in the Classics forum on conversions.
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post Nov 12 2017, 06:30 AM
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sorry about the hit, glad you are ok.

Which are the best (probably steel) GT flares, also for the money? there is only one manufacturer of aftermarket steel flares, but many distributors. Even though restoration design is in Canada, their prices, including shipping is very competitive and they are great guys to work with. Looks like they charge $995. OEM flares, if you can find them, will run $4-5K. They all look the same under bodywork and paint.

- Where do I get the best fibreglass bumpers? GTracing? I wouldnt even consider fiberglass.

- Do 8 inch fuchs fit in the rear? yes

- Whats the best spindle and hub to use in the front, I do want to run at least SC Calipers and the matching vented discs? You probably want to find Boge or Billstein front struts with 3 1/2 caliper mounts. They will fit all the bigger brake choices.

- What parts exactly of the 76/77 911 rear hub do I need for the rear conversion to five lug - I would see if you can grab a complete axle assembly so you have the trans stub, cv's, hub stub, and hub. The axle wont fit but you can buy a sway away brand axle that is correct for the 914 conversion. PMB has them on their website.

good luck
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post Nov 12 2017, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE(mlindner @ Nov 12 2017, 04:02 AM) *

Try Rich Johnson,(A914GUY). He has front hubs and brake, oil tanks and more for 914 conversion to six. Just a great guy. Best, Mark



He now sells my oil tanks..


And a side note ALL steel gt flares are made by AA..
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post Nov 12 2017, 07:52 AM
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I am very sorry to see those photos and hear that story. There are dirt bag POS people driving everywhere and their MO is to hit and run because they are thugs.

I am glad you were not hurt and have already flipped the incident to be a positive one and take advantage of the opportunity to take your car to the next level. You have already heard the best advice from the crew above. I agree with Mark, no fiberglass bumpers on street cars- IMHO you want what ever crash protection you can get from the metal bumpers. Also fiberglass just does not do well on the street and ends up all cracked in short order with people bumping them, etc.

The remainder of the parts are all available. Compile a comprehensive list and work your way through it. I would suggest getting the car on a frame jig/bench to make sure it is straight and true first. Then build from there.

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post Nov 12 2017, 08:00 AM
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Sorry Ben, missed you. And Ben has the oil tanks, headers with heat exchanger, GT rocker flares and more. Best, Mark
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post Nov 12 2017, 09:12 AM
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Oh man, people are the worst! Now you’ve got me wondering about my insurance as well. Better look into it... I just hope it doesn’t take too long to bring back, better than before! Not as much fun looking at it in the garage as it is on the road. Especially with our nice 70 degree weather in LA lately
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post Nov 12 2017, 09:59 AM
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Yet another reason to go with a stated value policy....just saying.

My car is presently insured at a decent stated value and it is in pieces. Once assembled I will at the minimum double that stated value amount. As much as it makes me sick to think of someone hitting my car, which would be emotional enough, I don't want to compound that with also taking a financial loss of a significant value should it be totaled by some snowflake texting while driving, drinking a coke and playing grab-ass with his girlfriend, boyfriend or "it".
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post Nov 12 2017, 10:16 AM
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The AA flares are fine to use and really duplicated the factory pieces. They will easily fit 8” wheels, and it’s a good idea to have them mounted on the car when fitting the flares. Ben’s pieces are works of art and should help you do a conversion. Several different options are available for the front engine mount. You could also replace the front struts with Carrera struts to take advantage of the larger brake discs, but SC ones would also be great. PMB can provide any brake components you might need.

Though it doesn’t look bent, you might want to mount the chassis on a Celette Bench to check it before doing any other repair work. Enjoy the project!
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post Nov 12 2017, 11:17 AM
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Thank you all!

And thank you all for the advise!

My biggest fear is, that the frame might not be straight and I am planing on getting that checked out as soon as possible.

The GT conversion is happening right now, but at this point I think I might need to divide the conversion into two steps, build a 170 HP type 4 for now and go 6 later. A six is an expensive rout to go down. I am not sure at this point. What is needed for the six besides tank, mounts and headers.

So if fibreglass bumpers are a no no, how do you do the oil cooler cutout in the front?
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post Nov 12 2017, 11:22 AM
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MY 914-6 GT tribute is about 90% done, but after the paint job a year and half ago the cost and time put into the car was starting to climb. I called my agent at Heacock Classic for a declared value insurance. She asked if was drivable, I told her not yet....within the year. I was able to get a declared value of 30,000 on the 914 added to my declared value on my 2007 Cayman S. The additional cost for the 914 is only 180.00/year. Hope that helps. Mark
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post Nov 12 2017, 12:01 PM
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[quote name='CG-914' date='Nov 12 2017, 10:17 AM' post='2547847'

My biggest fear is, that the frame might not be straight and I am planing on getting that checked out as soon as possible.
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I agree, this is your first step. Good luck and get another ins. company.
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post Nov 12 2017, 12:05 PM
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I would take some measurements at the suspension points, trailing arms, ect. It should tell you pretty quickly if you are still in the ballpark. If you can install a wheel without a tire, it can also make a good reference point.
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post Nov 12 2017, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(CG-914 @ Nov 13 2017, 06:17 AM) *

Thank you all!

And thank you all for the advise!

My biggest fear is, that the frame might not be straight and I am planing on getting that checked out as soon as possible.

The GT conversion is happening right now, but at this point I think I might need to divide the conversion into two steps, build a 170 HP type 4 for now and go 6 later. A six is an expensive rout to go down. I am not sure at this point. What is needed for the six besides tank, mounts and headers.

So if fibreglass bumpers are a no no, how do you do the oil cooler cutout in the front?


Sorry to hear of your misfortune,hopefully your car can come back better than ever.
Some parts you will need of the top of my head;
Throttle bellcrank conversion,
muffler for headers (stock 911 is a reasonable option),
911 tacho,911 combo gauge or additional vdo 52mm gauges for fuel and oil pressure ,
914/6 engine tin,
oil tank breather hose and tank breather,
oil lines, adaptors ,oil cooler (engine dependent),
oil cooler ducting (engine dependent),
engine return oil pipe,
engine wiring loom,
low pressure fuel pump,regulator and fuel hoses,
flywheel,stock or conversion type (engine dependent),full clutch kit,
rear shift rod,
hand throttle for carbed engine,
etc etc,
Theres the obvious conversion to 5 lug and the brakes to go with them including hand brake modification, may have missed some thing but you should get the idea.
Good luck getting your car straight again.
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post Nov 12 2017, 01:09 PM
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A big /4 Type IV engine with all the tricks can be almost as much as a /6 engine. Oil tank, oil cooler, /6 motor mount, etc can get pricy.

Good luck on which ever way you decide to go. Keep us updated on the car, it's only money.
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