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> Shift Pattern, What to do if your knob doesn't have it.
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post Nov 15 2017, 11:43 PM
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This cant be for real
I assume a 914

Would outrack all these



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post Nov 16 2017, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(thelogo @ Nov 15 2017, 09:38 PM) *

I dont think these guys needed the shift knob pattern
So i guess i dont either

But if you were an instrument rated pilot

? Anybody

Could you fly a small plane with out all the labels
On the guages .

Im sure you could , except fuel guage


Years ago, aircraft instrument panels were standardized to what was eventually called a "six Pack". You could go from one model airplane to another and still pretty much expect the flight instruments to be in the same position relative to each other. Even the new "glass cockpits" have the flight instruments in the same configuration. My airplane doesn't have any flight instruments 'cause nobody pays me to fly in bad weather anymore. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) No labels needed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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post Nov 16 2017, 11:32 PM
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So to be instruments rated
You mainly just use the 6pack

And i thought even if you fly in good weather or visual flight
Rules

That the fog could roll in

And you will need instrument flying to survive



And was roy hollidays plane a bad design since it encourages
A pilot to push or fly to the edge of the envelope more
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post Nov 17 2017, 05:56 AM
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Most important part of instrument flying is to have a plan B. Cause lets face it $hit happens
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post Nov 17 2017, 06:12 AM
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QUOTE(thelogo @ Nov 16 2017, 09:32 PM) *


And was roy hollidays plane a bad design since it encourages
A pilot to push or fly to the edge of the envelope more



Just like JFK Jr. Mr. Halladay was a very low hour pilot flying a airplane that was beyond there skill level which in both cases over confidence led to fatal decisions. JFK not being IFR rated to which his airplane was equipped for and who was flying at the limits of if not beyond VFR. Roy Halladay was show boating going from several 100 feet above the water down to 5 feet above the water.
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post Nov 17 2017, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(Mike Fitton @ Nov 15 2017, 02:31 PM) *


Ya that would work but way too big....hmmm. maybe design my own sticker...
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post Nov 18 2017, 01:31 AM
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QUOTE(Coondog @ Nov 17 2017, 04:12 AM) *

QUOTE(thelogo @ Nov 16 2017, 09:32 PM) *


And was roy hollidays plane a bad design since it encourages
A pilot to push or fly to the edge of the envelope more



Just like JFK Jr. Mr. Halladay was a very low hour pilot flying a airplane that was beyond there skill level which in both cases over confidence led to fatal decisions. JFK not being IFR rated to which his airplane was equipped for and who was flying at the limits of if not beyond VFR. Roy Halladay was show boating going from several 100 feet above the water down to 5 feet above the water.
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I cannot say exactly but from what i hear
John jr .

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) was in a hurry (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) very bad for flying
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) had a swollen sprained ankle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
Was flying at night
Was flying compared to his old plane and level of experience
A Hot ship """""""

Was told bad weather comin by other guys at airport who canceled their flight that day
Did not file a flight plan
Was not instrument rated
Turned down the offer of a experiened instrument rated pilot at the airport
Offer to go with him as help to fly just in case

Sat in front of plane alone no one to help him keep track of things

With all that working against him before the wheels up

You have to wonder if he even had a 50% chance of making it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)


THE holliday crash i dont know much about
But if he was flying straight lines I'm sure it would be much safer
Then flying stunts ,aerobatics high g pullouts being (verner voss)
Would you do what he was doing if your flying the spruce goose
I doubt it ,

But coolest thing in the world would be to get two of these litlle
Sea plane 1 seaters and flying around doing acm mock combat
Id pay big money to do that

I'm sure it would be very fun and very dangerous
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post Nov 18 2017, 06:16 AM
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The pattern on all 4 of my 914's has been so vague I'm betting the factory just gave up on figuring it out.....it would just be a cruel hoax to put a diagram there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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post Nov 19 2017, 05:55 PM
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I thought no pattern would be a theft deterrent. I’ve used a Momo for years.
I just grab the knob and use “the force” to tell me what gear I’m in. Just like welding in the dark.
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post Nov 19 2017, 08:26 PM
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What to do if your knob doesn’t have it. Here’s a totally off the wall thought; how about buying one with the shift pattern? Too easy? Yeah, probably. Never mind.

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post Nov 19 2017, 09:44 PM
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^R
^N
^1
^2
^3
^4
^5
^6
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v1
v2
v3
v4
v5
v6

I'll have this diagram on the dashboard in plain sight, next to the LED gear indicator (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 20 2017, 08:26 AM
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None of my manual cars have a shift pattern on the knob.
Thats one of the first thing that goes whenever I buy a car. I sit there as soon as I get home and think "what do I have that would make an awesome knob for my new car."

My 914 has had at least 4 knobs, and my WRX has had about 6. They are fun to make.

I do want to find a way to cheaply make or buy inserts, but there has never been much clamor for them.

Zach
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post Nov 20 2017, 10:14 AM
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This approach looks functional....but I can't see doing this to my knob. Much less how.

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