Camshaft Confusion, Correct Part# to run original D-Jet |
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Camshaft Confusion, Correct Part# to run original D-Jet |
914Sixer |
Nov 17 2017, 05:50 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,868 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Elgin did my camshaft for my 2056. Using 330-1 improved stock but good for fuel injection.
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914_7T3 |
Nov 17 2017, 08:07 PM
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Please forgive me, I'm new to all of this! Group: Members Posts: 1,846 Joined: 3-April 17 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 20,991 Region Association: Southern California |
Elgin did my camshaft for my 2056. Using 330-1 improved stock but good for fuel injection. Mark, Is that just the grind number of the OE Cam or is this an aftermarket solution? Can OE lifters be used or is there a special requirement there as well? This is adding to my "Camshaft (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) " |
914Sixer |
Nov 18 2017, 07:39 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,868 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
That is Elgin's number for the cam grind. I sent him my old camshaft and they reworked to the 330-1 grind. Using NOS stock German lifters. Waiting to finish up with GB on the AA piston heads from Len.
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EdwardBlume |
Nov 19 2017, 08:32 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
That is Elgin's number for the cam grind. I sent him my old camshaft and they reworked to the 330-1 grind. Using NOS stock German lifters. Waiting to finish up with GB on the AA piston heads from Len. http://www.elgincams.com/c-por3.html Interesting. Will the straight 330-1 work OK for 2056 build with a stock D-Jet? |
914Sixer |
Nov 19 2017, 09:07 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,868 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I talked Dema and he said it should be a good match. I also had Jeff Bowlsby calibrate the MPS for the 2056. Also using all new FI wire harness with new engine harness. Using stock Bosch injectors and a reworked distributor to factory spec.
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914_7T3 |
Nov 20 2017, 11:12 AM
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Please forgive me, I'm new to all of this! Group: Members Posts: 1,846 Joined: 3-April 17 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 20,991 Region Association: Southern California |
Mark/Edward,
That is encouraging, I have located the correct NOS Cam that will be used for my build. Will update specifically on my Resto thread. Depending on the number on your original Cam Gear, my supplier has additional units in stock. You can PM me if you have any interest in going that route. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Superhawk996 |
Jun 10 2019, 07:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,746 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Follow up - New Learning
So after having bought engine GA000099 it turns out that this engine is a stock 2.0L that has never been rebuilt before. I say this based on the fact that the engine tin, cheese head screw had never seen a screwdriver and because it had an intact D-jet system inclusive of many original ground connectors, spark plug connectors, etc. Stock Mahle 94mm shallow dish pistons, etc. With the help of @914_7T3 I was able to locate a NOS crankshaft. Initially I was skeptical that this was the correct cam for a stock 2.0L since I couldn't verify the part numbers from any of my own take off parts from my vehicle's engine. My recent purchase of Engine GA000099 is shedding some light on the situation. The cam I bought is stamped with VW part 021.109.101K. One pink paint stripe. One 1/2 ring cast on the cam to the right of the center bearing surface. Porsche part number on the box is 021.109.015K but there is no way to tell for sure if this is the proper box for the NOS cam I received since the box wasn't sealed. Boxes often get shuffled and/or simply used as safe place to store parts. If you think about it, it is pretty amazing that 40 odd years later we can still find any NOS parts! I suspect my box wasn't original to the cam I purchased since the drive gear on my NOS cam is a "0" pitch offset which should be 021.109.021M according to PET. 021.109.015M is supposed to be a "-3" pitch offset but would be the same cam profile, just a different drive gear. Really doesn't matter since I only care what the camshaft actually is - not the box. However, it all adds up to another source for confusion. Given that there are other known errors in PET, I don't even fully trust that! PET indicates that suffix(s) of the latest part is "M". Despite much searching on the net, I could never find a firm tie between the VW part numbers, the Porsche PET part numbers, or any parts that end in suffix "K" vs. "M". I found conflicting information all over the web. The most authoritative seemed to be: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/archive/i...t-348618--.html In splitting the case of GA000099 you can see that the stock cam is marked with two pink stripes. along with VW part number 021.109.101k the cam has 1/2 band cast into it . Not sure why this cam has two pink stripes vs. my NOS cam with only one pink stripe but suspect that it may be due to the difference in the drive gear. My NOS drive gear is a "C" suffix with "0" pitch offset. The drive gear on the GA000099 is a "B" which indicates "-3" pitch offset. Different levels of variation in gear pitch diameter allowed for select fit of the cam to crank gear to minimize cam backlash as part of factory build. So it does indeed seem to me that the NOS camshaft that I bought is indeed the correct cam for a GA motor. VW part number matches. Cast 1/2 ring matches, paint color matches. Good enough for me. I'm happier than a bird with a french fry! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Hopefully this helps someone else in the future. |
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