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| 440gordy |
 Nov 26 2017, 05:41 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 26-November 17 From: washington state Member No.: 21,638 Region Association: Pacific Northwest  |
  I am about to buy this 914. it has a little rust but nothing i cant handle. Both the lower rocker tins are rusted out and there is a spot on the threshold where the rocker meets the door striker panel. Needs a battery tray and maybe bracket. some surface rust along the back trunk but should clean up easily. no rust in the front compartment. It is supposed to have a slipping clutch, probably oil soaked from a leak. all in all a really straight car. I did get it started for about 30 seconds by bypassing the fuel pump and using another pump and running fuel direct from a gas can and it sounded just fine. It appears to have 106k. if i purchase this i plan to tear it to the ground and repaint it completely. and make any needed repairs. I don't want to overpay for it and then be buried in it. From what i have stated can any of you give me a good starting purchase price and possible end value. any knowledge form you guys would be greatly appreciated!! |
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| mepstein |
Nov 26 2017, 05:51 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,221 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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| era vulgaris |
Nov 26 2017, 06:01 PM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 26 2017, 06:51 PM)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) The end value is going to depend on the model year and engine size. I'm assuming that's a '72 1.7 based on the lack of bumperettes and what appears to be a moveable passenger seat. The 70-72 1.7's are still probably the least valued in the 914 market. A competently restored early 1.7 will probably bring ~$15k give or take a couple thousand depending on the quality of the resto. Has anyone here seen a stock restored early car break $20k on the private market (non-dealer sale)? That car looks like it's going to need literally everything overhauled. I don't know that there's money to be made there unless you're doing most or all of the metal and paintwork yourself. If it were a 73 or 74 2.0, that would be a different story. If you do restore it, replace the wheels with literally almost anything that'll fit. Those Rivieras are about the least desirable wheel for a 914. Fog lights and chrome bumpers are a plus for value. But if you're restoring it for yourself, go for it! If you haven't driven one of these before, spend a couple months with one. You'll be hooked. |
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| VaccaRabite |
Nov 26 2017, 06:16 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,420 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
What Mark said.
You are on the Left coast. Unless the car is basically free (under $1000) I'd find someone who knows 914s to evaluate the rust situation before you buy it. On the west coast you can probably find nicer ones. But if you know how to weld, everything is fixable. Zach |
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| Front yard mechanic |
Nov 26 2017, 06:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,153 Joined: 23-July 15 From: New Mexico Member No.: 18,984 Region Association: None
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Spend two thousand and don't tear it all apart until it's all running and rust repairs done . If you take it all down you will spend years and 15 grand just to go down the street for a 6 pack (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)
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| 440gordy |
Nov 26 2017, 06:34 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 26-November 17 From: washington state Member No.: 21,638 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 26 2017, 05:51 PM) He has agreed to $850 but i am putting it up on the hoist to verify any other rust that i can find.. but its looking really clean.. |
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| 440gordy |
Nov 26 2017, 06:37 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 26-November 17 From: washington state Member No.: 21,638 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(era vulgaris @ Nov 26 2017, 06:01 PM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 26 2017, 06:51 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) The end value is going to depend on the model year and engine size. I'm assuming that's a '72 1.7 based on the lack of bumperettes and what appears to be a moveable passenger seat. The 70-72 1.7's are still probably the least valued in the 914 market. A competently restored early 1.7 will probably bring ~$15k give or take a couple thousand depending on the quality of the resto. Has anyone here seen a stock restored early car break $20k on the private market (non-dealer sale)? That car looks like it's going to need literally everything overhauled. I don't know that there's money to be made there unless you're doing most or all of the metal and paintwork yourself. If it were a 73 or 74 2.0, that would be a different story. If you do restore it, replace the wheels with literally almost anything that'll fit. Those Rivieras are about the least desirable wheel for a 914. Fog lights and chrome bumpers are a plus for value. But if you're restoring it for yourself, go for it! If you haven't driven one of these before, spend a couple months with one. You'll be hooked. yes its a 72. I used to own my own body shop so i am fully able to do sheet metal repair and replacement plus all body work and paint. I am going to dig deeper tomorrow night and see what else i can find. I have my fingers crossed. thank you for your knowledge. I dont know anything about the 914 but i cant wait to drive it!! |
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| 98101 |
Nov 26 2017, 06:38 PM
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Michael in Seattle Group: Members Posts: 373 Joined: 7-October 17 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 21,495 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I’m in Seattle, maybe not far from you?
For what it’s worth, the previous owners of the last two cars I bought (a 1991 Miata and 1970 914) lost thousands of dollars, and I would lose thousands of dollars if I were to sell either of them. In the 1980s I had a 1975 with the same (now undesirable) Riviera wheels, and a 1973 with Fuch’s wheels I liked a lot more. |
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| 440gordy |
Nov 26 2017, 06:43 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 26-November 17 From: washington state Member No.: 21,638 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Nov 26 2017, 06:16 PM) What Mark said. You are on the Left coast. Unless the car is basically free (under $1000) I'd find someone who knows 914s to evaluate the rust situation before you buy it. On the west coast you can probably find nicer ones. But if you know how to weld, everything is fixable. Zach He said he would take 850 for it which i though wasnt that bad but i told him if i find more rust after i inspect it will we have to meet in the middle somewhere. |
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| 440gordy |
Nov 26 2017, 06:50 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 26-November 17 From: washington state Member No.: 21,638 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(98101 @ Nov 26 2017, 06:38 PM) I’m in Seattle, maybe not far from you? For what it’s worth, the previous owners of the last two cars I bought (a 1991 Miata and 1970 914) lost thousands of dollars, and I would lose thousands of dollars if I were to sell either of them. In the 1980s I had a 1975 with the same (now undesirable) Riviera wheels, and a 1973 with Fuch’s wheels I liked a lot more. Im over in Yakima. The good thing is i can do all the needed repairs myself. I am making up a list of parts for a worst case senario. I feel i can keep it under 5k and the rest is my labor.. |
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| Coondog |
Nov 26 2017, 07:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California
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I bet five 100 dollar bills will get the deal done even if you don’t find more rust.
Worst case scenario it would make a good parts car. Good luck |
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| Larmo63 |
Nov 26 2017, 07:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Save it and have fun with it. Don't change that color, ever!!!! Olympic blue is a great color.
I had a beater that I made into a good drivable car, I kind of cut my teeth (as far as 914s) on it. It looks cool, and $500-850 ain't bad. They are really fun cars!!! And........................ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
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| injunmort |
Nov 26 2017, 07:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
fwiw, i am no longer a fan of the "buy a good west roller mentality". i have repaired worse. if you have the courage to undertake a resto, go for it, at $850.00 you wont get hurt even if you abandon it.they are worth restoring for their driving pleasure alone. non rusted survivors are few and far between, these are not for the feighnt of heart but are worth the effort
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| 440gordy |
Nov 26 2017, 08:51 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 26-November 17 From: washington state Member No.: 21,638 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(injunmort @ Nov 26 2017, 07:51 PM) fwiw, i am no longer a fan of the "buy a good west roller mentality". i have repaired worse. if you have the courage to undertake a resto, go for it, at $850.00 you wont get hurt even if you abandon it.they are worth restoring for their driving pleasure alone. non rusted survivors are few and far between, these are not for the feighnt of heart but are worth the effort i feel no matter what it will be fun get running and drive. I feel confident since i have a lot of body experiance. i used to do Rebuilds and have learned how to properly remove sheet metal and if need be make the piece if needed. plus i know body work and i can lay down the paint. even if it has a couple our of sight rust spots its going to be a heck of a good looking car when i'm done with it! |
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| 440gordy |
Nov 26 2017, 08:54 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 26-November 17 From: washington state Member No.: 21,638 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Nov 26 2017, 07:30 PM) Save it and have fun with it. Don't change that color, ever!!!! Olympic blue is a great color. I had a beater that I made into a good drivable car, I kind of cut my teeth (as far as 914s) on it. It looks cool, and $500-850 ain't bad. They are really fun cars!!! And........................ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) the orginal color was yellow and someone did the blue. i also like the blue, but might be persuaded to go for a orange/tangerine flavor. I cant wait to get it back on the road! |
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| Matty900 |
Nov 26 2017, 08:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,269 Joined: 21-February 15 From: Oregon Member No.: 18,454 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The price is right! Get it running and enjoy it.
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| whitetwinturbo |
Nov 26 2017, 09:15 PM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
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| rhodyguy |
Nov 27 2017, 09:01 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,055 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
If the car has lived in WA most of its life your rust hunt will expand. Be prepared for the worst. $5k might be a bit short. Depends on how deep you have to go.
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| krazykonrad |
Nov 28 2017, 11:13 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,121 Joined: 21-February 06 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 5,610 |
Is a 914 worth it? Undoubtedly YES. The most fun to drive car I've ever been in.
Is THAT 914 worth it? Maybe. Get it up on a lift and send us some pictures. Its a great price, but rust can get to where it compromises the safety of the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Konrad |
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| bbrock |
Nov 28 2017, 11:58 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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I'm having a hard time seeing how this car is NOT worth it. Looks like a great project. Of course, you need to get behind those rockers and underneath to look at the nasty bits. But my car was in WAY worse shape before I started rustoration. To provide reference, I'm winding up major repairs that included major repair of inner longs and replacement of outer longs on both sides, replacing both door jambs, replacing almost everything in the hell hole, and a complete floor replacement. Price of parts that were mostly RD new with a few salvage parts mixed in was ~3K. The rest was welding/grinding supplies and lots of my time. Unless that car is bent, I think you are gold given your skillset. Worst case, you could get that kind of money back out in parts. Dibs on those rocker covers if you do!
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