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post Dec 17 2017, 02:11 PM
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interesting -

6x16 real fuchs seem to be offered at a comparative bargain right now cuz many 911 guys are going to 7&8

a recent other thread suggests our germany cohorts cannot install any repro that does not have the TUV cert -

- they must meet stringent stds for road use unlike many earlier repros - which for most of us is likely good enuf for occasional track days

the gregggearhead TUV-approved copies look nice & if in fact TUV approved (will have certif sticker)

for reasons incomprehensible to me - the market for oem fuchs 15x8 is going nuts - wheels for which we are hard pressed to get street tires ???????

for that matter 16x8 fuchs & BBS as well (which everyone was getting rid of 10 yrs ago) are going market nuts

p.s - i'm looking for a set of old BBS RA 8x16 (circa 1984-87 carerra) - and/or a pair of 8x16 fuchs replicas to match a pair i already have - see http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...plica-pair.html




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post Dec 17 2017, 03:57 PM
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I used to buy 6x16s for $100 or less, but the 17inch rebarrell and 3 piece market made them scarce... they are no bargain anymore.
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post Dec 17 2017, 04:14 PM
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Apparently, a TUV sticker doesn’t guarantee certification. Lots of counterfeiting going on.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...chs-ebay-2.html
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post Dec 17 2017, 11:07 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback.....it's appreciated. The real 15" Fuchs have gotten crazy expensive the past couple of years, thats why I was considering replicas. I've also considered going to 16x6's as a couple of members have pointed out. I like the look of this car with 16's.


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post Dec 17 2017, 11:53 PM
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thats the best 16x6 picture Ive ever seen....I am guessing they are modified to 16 x 7 making rhem like the 911R 15's

16x7.5s I made


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post Dec 18 2017, 05:59 PM
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It's very true that real 15x6 Fuchs are Uber expensive.
I bought a set of four mismatched flat 6's for about $2k.
That's right.
Add another $1k to refinish and that's your lower end for a set.
I've seen people asking as much as $8k for a set of refinished 15x6 factory Fuchs.
Sign of the times.
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post Dec 18 2017, 06:13 PM
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Real 5 1/2 x 15's with hearts!
195/65 -15
Just the right look to me.


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post Dec 18 2017, 06:23 PM
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find a 6x15.. deep or flat.. and if you want to fill out the fenderwells, add 1/4" spacers till you rub. 205/50 or 195/60. Considering how sticky modern tires are, you don't really need to cram anything larger than a 205 unless you are running some serious hp.

if on a budget, then look for 6x15 cookies as they haven't been completely priced to oblivion like Fuchs have. or go period correct alternate and get some 6.5x15 Minilites instead!

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different ET36, ET47 & ET23.3


ET36 is what you want.

ET 49 (911R) means that the extra width (7" vs 6") is carried to the "inside" of the fenderwell. So , when comparing a 7x15 et 23 vs a 7x15 et49, the 23 will have a "dish" whereas the 49 will look like a 6".

An alternative look would be 7x15 phonedials, available in both et23 and 52 for cheap.
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post Dec 18 2017, 06:42 PM
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Ok....next question. What's the deal with the 14x5.5 Fuchs.....is anyone running them? I know they were original to the 6. The current price of used 14's seem reasonable.
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post Dec 18 2017, 06:49 PM
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14" tire choices are quite limited, that's why the 5.5 x 14" Fuchs sell for less.
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post Dec 18 2017, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(Cal @ Dec 18 2017, 07:42 PM) *

Ok....next question. What's the deal with the 14x5.5 Fuchs.....is anyone running them? I know they were original to the 6. The current price of used 14's seem reasonable.

It’s hard to find decent tires for the 14’s.
If you like cookies, I have a set of 6x15 for $500. Probably throw in a collapsible steel spare.
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post Dec 18 2017, 06:57 PM
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You can't argue with the look of deep sixes.....matching dates w/hearts

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QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Dec 18 2017, 07:57 PM) *

You can't argue with the look of deep sixes.....

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Lawrence....why don't you sell me your deep 6's....I'll give you $2K for everything (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Vredestein has the Sprint Classics in a 195/70VR14 size.....that might work well for 14" Fuchs.
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Go with the 14" w/Veredesteins, that would be a good set-up!!

I'm actively looking for a pair of real 7Rs......!!!

I'll keep my set until I decide to go wide body (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)
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post Dec 18 2017, 08:23 PM
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Flat, deep, hearts lets face it no one knows the difference except for porsche guys, in fact even non-P gear heads wouldn't notice the difference looking right at them.
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post Dec 18 2017, 08:36 PM
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I run 5.5x14 on my -6 with 196/60-14 Falken Azenis RT-615k tires.

I need to free up $500 and call mepstein! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Dec 19 2017, 10:39 AM
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14 inch tires were for the touring set, softer ride, a little bit "floaty".
15 inch for the more aggressive driver, better control, a bit more harsh ride, better road "feel".
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Dec 18 2017, 09:23 PM) *

Flat, deep, hearts lets face it no one knows the difference except for porsche guys, in fact even non-P gear heads wouldn't notice the difference looking right at them.

That’s fine, I buy my 914 parts for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Dec 19 2017, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 19 2017, 01:34 PM) *

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Dec 18 2017, 09:23 PM) *

Flat, deep, hearts lets face it no one knows the difference except for porsche guys, in fact even non-P gear heads wouldn't notice the difference looking right at them.

That’s fine, I buy my 914 parts for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


A question for you guys who know the market, how much should I be looking to add in a trade for a set of 16s 6 and 7 for a set of 15x7?

I have had the 16s on for a couple years and 2.0l 15s before that. The car is just better suited to the 15 in wheel.
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post Dec 19 2017, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(Hans Jan @ Dec 17 2017, 01:32 AM) *

After screwing around with bigger tires I ended up with 205-55-R16 on 7” Fuchs all around. Totally fills up the wheel-well.
It’s all personal preference, and what ever you decide to do it can be reversed easily.




I have 205/55 16 on my 7" rear, 6"wide front- the 7" rubbed in rear, not in front- blistered my paint and rolled fenders were a disaster that had to be repaired, now the 7" fit but still so close - its not worth it- cars vary , one car may fit but mine did not - I put the 6" in front and have 1/2" spacers and no rubbing looks great - the rear 7" will come off before I paint and will get same bridgestone Potenza performance tire on 6", and I can put 1/2 spacers on them and still have plenty of room because the offset on a 6 vs 7 is all from center out, not in. SO if you have new paint , stay with the 6" rims- you only loose like a 1/2" of tread width not stretching them across a 7" rim - the tire width of the Potenza on the ground is more than 7" when mounted on a 6" rim.

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