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| simonjb |
 Dec 29 2017, 03:32 PM
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KiwiMan  Group: Members Posts: 563 Joined: 18-October 16 From: Stamford, Connecticut Member No.: 20,505 Region Association: North East States 
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Hi
Two questions.. 1) Can I rest the engine on the ground with the heat exchangers attached? Without any damage? 2) I am trying to figure out these wires - the two at the bottom of pic. One is a single wire and the other is a set. I assume one is for inside light? Whats the second set for?  |
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| mepstein |
Dec 29 2017, 03:51 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,220 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(simonjb @ Dec 29 2017, 04:32 PM)  Hi Two questions.. 1) Can I rest the engine on the ground with the heat exchangers attached? Without any damage? Yes & yes I like to rest it on a harbor freight furniture dolly. Makes it easy to move around. |
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| gothspeed |
Dec 30 2017, 12:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
I believe the longer solo wire (lower left in picture) is for the parking brake indicator light. The next shorter multi-wire set (coming from same grommet point) with two female spades would be interior light.
And i completley agree with the dolly for engine storage/portability. Installed heat exhangers would be fine. I would put a thick piece of plywood across the dolly. |
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| Dave_Darling |
Dec 30 2017, 04:14 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,980 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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You can store the engine that way, but I prefer to have a couple of blocks under the case so that the exhaust is just off the floor (or shelf).
What area do those wires come from? It looks like the box in the upper right is the "Dreaded Seatbelt Interlock Relay", with the "door open" buzzer next to it. Those would be from the cabin, in that case. What colors are the wires? We can match the colors to the wiring diagrams and figure them out better that way. For instance, I believe that the interior light gets a black wire, a brown wire and a brown/white (brown with a white tracer stripe) wire. --DD |
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| Spoke |
Dec 30 2017, 07:48 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,972 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(simonjb @ Dec 29 2017, 04:32 PM) 1) Can I rest the engine on the ground with the heat exchangers attached? Without any damage? When you say "with heat exchangers attached" do you mean with transmission attached and the end of the HEs attached to the muffler hanger? If the trans is not attached I'm not sure I would rest the engine on the HEs. |
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| GeorgeRud |
Dec 31 2017, 09:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I’d try to support the main engine weight under the crankcase and just use the heat exchangers to help balance it. The dolly is definitely a good idea.
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| mepstein |
Dec 31 2017, 09:41 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,220 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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If you are leaving the trans and exhaust on the car, the heat exchangers won’t be exposed to any twisting force on the exhaust studs and the engine won’t need any additional support. If it’s just the engine and the heat exchangers, some engine support couldn’t hurt.
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| rhodyguy |
Dec 31 2017, 09:44 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,054 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
The 1000# rated furniture dolly from Home Depot. $16.37.
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| mepstein |
Dec 31 2017, 10:27 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,220 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Dec 31 2017, 10:44 AM) The 1000# rated furniture dolly from Home Depot. $16.37. I can tell you (from experience) the hf wood dolly's are stronger than the metal ones. |
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| rjames |
Dec 31 2017, 01:40 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,910 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I personally wouldn’t use the exchangers to support the weight of the engine.
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| mepstein |
Dec 31 2017, 01:56 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,220 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(rjames @ Dec 31 2017, 02:40 PM) I personally wouldn’t use the exchangers to support the weight of the engine. We have about 30 engines sitting on pallets, granted, most are 6's but there are a couple 4's. The type 4 engine weighs 325lbs fully dressed with trans and exhaust. the 6's weigh between 400-550 without trans. We've never had any issues. |
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