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Front and Rear Shocks Needed, What and where to buy |
DaveO90s4 |
Jan 7 2018, 05:46 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 149 Joined: 26-April 16 From: Australia Member No.: 19,935 Region Association: None |
Hi all,
The Boge rear shocks on my 914 are worn out. The fronts are probably no better. So I need to fix this. Not sure what to do. I read Boge's are not able to be rebuilt cost effectively? I read KYB are harsh (but price looks right). I think that leaves Bilsteins - but with Bilsteins replacing original Boges do I need anything special to make them fit? With some guidance from Forum members I'll know what to buy - and will then place a WTB ad on this forum (or suggestions where to buy are most welcome too). Many thanks in advance DaveO Australia |
mepstein |
Jan 7 2018, 06:23 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If you are on a budget, get another set of Boge's/Sachs. If you cn splurge, get Bilsteins. Often you need new rear springs as well.
I wouldn't use KYB's even if they were free. |
Mark Henry |
Jan 7 2018, 06:34 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
You don't need anything special, but I'd also buy new rear springs and replace the A arm bushings, etc.
If one or both corners of your front suspension is like a rock it's the bushings, not the struts. |
914Sixer |
Jan 7 2018, 07:05 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,870 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Boge/Sachs fronts are gas now. No rears are available from them now. Bilstein and Koni make fronts and rears. Both are priced about the same if you shop around. Koni Classics (hydraulic) are available for the fronts also.
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Mblizzard |
Jan 7 2018, 09:50 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
I found Koni adjustables for about $150 each on the fronts. Hard to get more for that price range.
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bigkensteele |
Jan 7 2018, 04:46 PM
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Major Member Group: Members Posts: 2,197 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,660 Region Association: South East States |
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injunmort |
Jan 7 2018, 06:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
boge/sachs/billstein are all owned by zf. dont know about porsche, but bmw applications, billstein hd are pretty close to oe spec, sports are shorter with about the same valving. shorter springs are needed for sports. i have billstein hd's in front of my dd, they are great for daily driving.
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DaveO90s4 |
Jan 8 2018, 04:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 149 Joined: 26-April 16 From: Australia Member No.: 19,935 Region Association: None |
Thanks all for your input
Dave |
maf914 |
Jan 8 2018, 08:36 AM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None |
Oops, sorry, my mistake. When I posted the following I obviously didn't notice that you were posting from Australia.
No affiliation. Koni rears for $233 a pair on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Koni-Sport-Yellow-Sh...oni+porsche+914 |
EdwardBlume |
Jan 8 2018, 08:43 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
I think Konis have more use, I liked my Bilsteins and still run them.
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OLAF |
Jan 8 2018, 09:39 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 27-January 16 From: lorain, ohio Member No.: 19,602 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I'm restoring my '71 and know nothing about shock/strut brand comparisons. I am a newbe to the 914, haven't even driven one. This project had sat in a Florida garage for 30 years when I bought it and shipped it to Ohio.
That was 2 years ago. This project is a retirement gift to myself and I intend to build a very nice "driver" with a "decent" ride, not too rough and not too spongy. I've already rebuilt the front steering and suspension using KYB shocks understanding them to be equivalent to OEM specs. I was planning to buy the same for the rear and had not considered replacement of the springs. Questions: Will the KYBs give me a satisfactory ride? Looking for a Sunday "ice cream" driver. How do I know if rear springs need replacement? What procedure is used to test integrity of the trailing arm bushings? Thanks guys. This forum and all it provides has been extremely helpful. You've all made my project much more interesting. Let me share with you the status of my project: -All bodywork (minimal required) and panel off paint has been completed and all new rubber and seals. -Type 4 2 ltr with twin Empi 44's was freshened by local pro and installed. -new fuel lines and pump installed -all shift lever bushings replaced -most wiring replaced as needed -gauges have been restored and oil temp/pressure VDOs being added -new brake lines, MS, calipers, rotors, pedal assy, etc.. -custom interior is being sewn Let me bore you with a few pics in my shop: |
mepstein |
Jan 8 2018, 11:28 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The car and the shop look great. Spend just a bit more and get sachs/boge, billstein or koni's. I had KYB's. They are harsh riding, not at all like the stock boge shocks. I had them on my first car and again on another that I purchased years later. I still have a set but they are only used to make a car into a roller, I will never drive on them. Its really worth the money to buy the good shocks.
Ive never had springs that were still on the car turn out to be good. |
914Sixer |
Jan 8 2018, 12:24 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,870 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
K=Kill
Y=Your B=Back |
Downunderman |
Jan 8 2018, 01:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 852 Joined: 31-May 03 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 766 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
Bilstein from Sydney Shock. Andre will valve them for whatever application you have in mind if other than street.
Cheers, |
Downunderman |
Jan 8 2018, 01:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 852 Joined: 31-May 03 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 766 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
I should have also said that if you buy them in the US after the currency adjustment and freight the price works out about the same.
Cheers, |
mb911 |
Jan 8 2018, 02:57 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,812 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I really wanted sachs/boge for the rear on my car as thats what the fronts are and brand new.. Can't find them anywhere so went with konis in the back..
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JamesM |
Jan 8 2018, 03:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,888 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Questions: Will the KYBs give me a satisfactory ride? Looking for a Sunday "ice cream" driver. How do I know if rear springs need replacement? What procedure is used to test integrity of the trailing arm bushings? Which KYBs? I have seen two different varieties, White and Grey. The white "Gas-A-Just" in my opinion are the worst possible thing you can do to a 914 in terms of ride quality and handling and near the top of the list of worst possible things you can do to a 914 period. I own/have owned a lot of 914s and I would say about 50% of them seem to come to me with white KYBs in the rear, most likely due to them being the cheapest option available. They are always top of my list to replace on the car when i get them and I just give them away (with a warning about how bad they suck) or trash them when no one will take them. You would probably do just as well by bolting a 2x4 in their place. The one car I drove with the Grey KYBs in the rear was slightly less terrible but i would never buy them by choice. If you have the grey ones you may find them to be liveable Stock Sach/Boges are not bad but all my 914s get Bilsteins, they are worth it. |
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