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> WTF?? Paypal Fraud
Dave Cawdrey
post Jul 8 2003, 09:30 PM
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I just got a email from Paypal stating that a buyer from my auction used someone else's credit card. How the fuck can someone do this? Why am I responsible?

Anyway, dude's name is Thomas Richardson. Beware. Here is his info. Someone should call him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boid.gif)

Contact Information for tc_richardson:

User ID: tc_richardson
Name: Thomas Richardson
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City: Vallejo
State: CA
Country: United States
Phone: (707) 643 - 0938
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post Jul 8 2003, 10:49 PM
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Not good news....

A credit card is unsecured credit given to an individual or business. By accepting a credit card payment, YOU as the seller are liable for that payment and can be subject to having to refund the cash for up to 180 days in the case of fraud. According to the credit card company, you are the victim of the fraud, not their customer.

Alternatively, as a consumer, you have up to 180 days to claim you did not buy an item charged to your account, and get your money back if its fraud.

You're only recourse in this case is to track down the deadbeat buyer and file charges. If its any consolation, interstate fraud is a serious charge. I have not been through this, but I'd be pissed at Paypal for making it seem like the buyer was an OK buyer. You do have an address that you shipped to.

To protect yourself, do not take credit cards as payment unless you have a signature (signed in person) and get ID. Its hard for a buyer to say they didn't get something when you show 1) you had the card present, 2) they signed, and 3) you took their ID. Then the credit card merchant company should go after the buyer and have them settle the dispute themselves.

In this case, you are the victim....

We should have a DO NOT DO BUS With wall of all the deadbeat folks.
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Dave Cawdrey   WTF?? Paypal Fraud   Jul 8 2003, 09:30 PM
Lawrence914-6   Call him... ask WTF?   Jul 8 2003, 09:38 PM
!   Shouldn't the credit card company be the one t...   Jul 8 2003, 09:44 PM
Malmz   Not if the guy with the Paypal account complained ...   Jul 8 2003, 09:46 PM
Malmz   Then again, now that I just looked up the user id....   Jul 8 2003, 09:49 PM
Lawrence914-6   THIS is the reason not to have a "Verified" accoun...   Jul 8 2003, 09:50 PM
rick 918-S   So what's the story? What were you selling? Di...   Jul 8 2003, 10:19 PM
Brad Roberts   Dave I need some more info on this. We have about...   Jul 8 2003, 10:27 PM
Dave Cawdrey   Here the low down: Used fog lenses sold for 52 ...   Jul 8 2003, 10:41 PM
anthony   When you sell on ebay only accept Paypal from user...   Jul 8 2003, 10:42 PM
Malmz   You need to send everything with USPS with a track...   Jul 8 2003, 10:48 PM
Rob Ways   Not good news.... A credit card is unsecured cred...   Jul 8 2003, 10:49 PM
Dave Cawdrey   look   Jul 8 2003, 10:54 PM
Malmz   FWIW, I learned about the tracking numbers the har...   Jul 8 2003, 10:57 PM
Brad Roberts   I ship everything online thru UPS...so I have ever...   Jul 8 2003, 11:00 PM
Dave Cawdrey   DAMN, I'm out $56 DAMN :angry: :headbang...   Jul 8 2003, 11:02 PM
Malmz   Brad, Not a bad idea to sweep the account one in ...   Jul 8 2003, 11:05 PM
Malmz   Is the phone number bogus or out of service, or no...   Jul 8 2003, 11:06 PM
!   BTW....if you go to www.paypalsucks.com there is t...   Jul 8 2003, 11:08 PM
Malmz   BTW, I hate to be the one that tells you.............   Jul 8 2003, 11:09 PM
ChrisReale   Sucks man. Happened to me one time. Buyer said h...   Jul 8 2003, 11:09 PM
GWN7   Call the phone number and ask WTF. Tell him that...   Jul 8 2003, 11:09 PM
!   Their toll free number is (888) 221-1161 Another ...   Jul 8 2003, 11:09 PM
Jeff Krieger   I jumped through all of PayPal's hoops to beco...   Jul 8 2003, 11:11 PM
ChrisReale   MikeZ is a bounty hunter :lol:   Jul 8 2003, 11:20 PM
Tony C   If he really is in Vallejo Andy, Brad and myself c...   Jul 9 2003, 12:41 AM
!   Yo Tony....Youse got a Cousin named Guido?:splat: ...   Jul 9 2003, 12:44 AM
Tony C   Exactly Mike :rocketarena: :gunner: :shoot2kil...   Jul 9 2003, 12:49 AM
Brad Roberts   B << is always very polite around T's dad and ...   Jul 9 2003, 12:51 AM
736convers   Paypal wont do anything without a tracking number....   Jul 9 2003, 04:17 AM
garyh     Jul 9 2003, 09:56 AM
silver six   Korijo The police won't do anything about thi...   Jul 9 2003, 05:10 PM


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