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> 4-lug Fuchs or 5-lug Fuchs
Cal
post Jan 13 2018, 10:05 AM
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I've posted several threads recently regarding Fuchs and tire types/sizes. I'm on the fence about staying with the stock 4-lug alloys that came on my 2.0L car or converting over to a 5-lug to run the 911 deep sixes. If I did the conversion I'd probably use PMB's kit. My question is.....am I an absolute idiot to even consider doing this to an original unmolested '74 2.0L? I know it's my car and I can do whatever I want but I'm looking for advise / opinions. If I did the conversion with Eric's kit could I ever convert it back to a 4-lug without much trouble. If I left the car unaltered I'd at least replace the old 165/SR15 tires with the period correct Michelin XWX or the Pirelli CN36's in the 185/70/15 size. Below are photos of the car....


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post Jan 13 2018, 12:53 PM
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Jeff,

I'm sure that you can guess that my opinion on a beautiful original 73-74 2L like yours will be to keep it stock & period correct.

Another reason to keep with the stock-ish sizes that nobody is mentioning here, is "Ghost Mileage" - wherein the odometer error of +/-10% will significantly devalue an original 2L like yours over time driving it, & showing more mileage than actual.

Member Todd on here who has restored several low original mile 73-74 2L learned that lesson the hard way, when he lost some sale price upon his refurbishment/clean-up of the Bahia Red 73 2L IIRC due to the 195/65HR15s that he used on it for a time driving it.

185/70R15 or 185/75R15 are the closest diameter to the OE 165HR15 (165/80R15) size that were original 73-76 2Ls, & so only have a tiny error.

Use this tire size calculator to see the errors for various sizes yourself:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc?tires=...80r15-195-65r15

Despite the seeming flood of big tire boyz on here who think that 914 tires have to be big, low profile, fatties with modern treads - it is NOT the only nor best way to go for just new tires. Also, the current repops of Michelins, Pirellis, etc. are made with the modern rubber compounds anyway, and the classic tire tread patterns are in fact pretty effective on our older & lighter cars.

You'll actually get more "Loos" with a truly stock & period correct 914, from what I've seen at the 100+ PCA Concours & other car shows at which I've judged over the past decade, as well as around town. It's a historical & vintage/classic car thing.

There are also the Vredestien 185/70HR15 tires as an option at half the price of the Pirelli & XWX options:

http://www.lucasclassictires.com/185-70R15_c78.htm

But even with the most expensive Michelin XWXs on 5 wheels, I'm pretty sure that will be far more cost effective than the 5-lug parts, wheels & tires - & the 185/70VR15 is infinitesimally less tread on pavement than the 195/65R15 options.

There are also several OE size 165R15 (/80 in HR or VR) options if you want pure stock, & don't want to lose mpg with the wider 185s:

http://www.lucasclassictires.com/165R15_c70.htm

Coker & Universal tire stores also have classic/vintage tire options, but Lucas Tire is local to me in Long Beach CA, & they can get any tire from their UK affillieate Longstone Tyre - so I'm showing you them>

https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/tyres/165x15.html

https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/tyres/185x15.html

If you're looking for better performance, then go to 185/70R15 - if not but want the OE look & size of 165R15 (165/80R15) - all in the H, T or V speed ratings.

Sometimes it's just best & nicer looking to have & show-off a classic car as it was back in the day, without all of the resto-mod & hot-rodding tricks of today!
I'm sure that your avatar buddy Steve would agree! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

You may also want to contact the guy with the Leistritz muffler question post in the Garage Forums.

Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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Cal   4-lug Fuchs or 5-lug Fuchs   Jan 13 2018, 10:05 AM
gothspeed   That car is beautiful. I would keep the 4 lugs, es...   Jan 13 2018, 10:13 AM
rudedude   Leave it original, new original tires would be nic...   Jan 13 2018, 10:13 AM
Montreal914   As you mentioned, your car, your decision. I perso...   Jan 13 2018, 10:25 AM
abes914   your car is gorgeous! 4 lug Fuchs looks just...   Jan 13 2018, 10:32 AM
mepstein   I think you are correct about Eric’s kit being t...   Jan 13 2018, 10:42 AM
KELTY360   I've never really understood the five bolt con...   Jan 13 2018, 10:58 AM
Cairo94507   I really love the deep sixes, but on your car, whi...   Jan 13 2018, 11:18 AM
Mueller   Besides time and money, easy to go back to origina...   Jan 13 2018, 11:20 AM
JOEPROPER   Your car would look great with deep six' (more...   Jan 13 2018, 11:41 AM
Larmo63   Jeff, your car looks awesome as-is, but in my opin...   Jan 13 2018, 12:37 PM
mihai914   I saw this car in person last year at Hershey and ...   Jan 13 2018, 12:53 PM
Tom_T   Jeff, I'm sure that you can guess that my opi...   Jan 13 2018, 12:53 PM
napasteve   I waffled on this decision for a while too but ult...   Jan 13 2018, 01:09 PM
JamesM   I would not change a thing about that car! Yo...   Jan 13 2018, 01:25 PM
type2man   CIP1 has wheel adapters for $120 shipped....   Jan 13 2018, 01:38 PM
Coondog   Ran my 1.8 for a year with my 5 lug conversion, wi...   Jan 13 2018, 02:15 PM
thelogo   4 lug all the way If its not broken dont fix it...   Jan 13 2018, 04:10 PM
cal44   I get it..........not much better looking than the...   Jan 13 2018, 05:53 PM
mepstein   Easy fix   Jan 13 2018, 06:13 PM
sdearman   First to the OP, you car looks great the way it is...   Jan 13 2018, 07:49 PM
Jamie   Keep it stock! I've been running Michelin ...   Jan 13 2018, 07:55 PM
Larmo63   This cost a lot of money. There is more than meets...   Jan 13 2018, 07:57 PM
Mueller   This cost a lot of money. There is more than meet...   Jan 13 2018, 07:58 PM
clapeza   Easy solution: Keep the 4-lugs on that beautiful ...   Jan 13 2018, 08:51 PM
Perry Kiehl   The 914 2.0 Fuchs wheel is perfect for your car, s...   Jan 14 2018, 08:35 AM
Cal   Thanks for all the feedback and comments. After r...   Jan 14 2018, 09:03 AM
mepstein   Thanks for all the feedback and comments. After ...   Jan 14 2018, 10:00 AM
r_towle   Thanks for all the feedback and comments. After...   Jan 14 2018, 10:03 AM
mepstein   Thanks for all the feedback and comments. After ...   Jan 14 2018, 10:00 AM
Tdskip   One more vote for as-is!   Jan 14 2018, 09:26 AM
r_towle   Leave the wheels, invest in getting rid of the bum...   Jan 14 2018, 09:50 AM


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