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> 914-4 factory induction, Always FI?
Jetsetsurfshop
post Jan 16 2018, 04:54 PM
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I need help with a rule in the race series I've been running. (Champ car)
The way the rules are written means they hit me for 50pts each for my carbs. If any 914-4 were sold with carbs instead of FI I could make my case and use those points for other needed stuff (transmission cooler!!)
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post Jan 17 2018, 02:15 PM
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Sorry, but ethics alarm is going off in my head. It seems to me that you've lost 100 points because your motor is at 165 rwhp, nowhere near stock. I don't know how doctored up the Miata's and BMWs are, but it would seem the rules should add points for either making specific modifications, OR by adding points based on the amount of hp over stock. PCA does this in their rules for Autocross and uses dyno Hp in a formula that considers power to weight ratio. It seemed fair to me and I had tight competition (tenths of seconds over a mile course) with mostly stock 944s, 356s, and other 914s. 0-250 performance point cars in bottom (slowest) class. PCA also uses the performance point classes to compare drivers of all classes in a handicap system. I was happy to come out in top half with boxsters, 911s and other much higher performance cars under this type of handicapping system.

Hiding Megasquirt in a stock ECU and claiming stock injection when the dyno says 165 rwhp, come on!
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post Jan 17 2018, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(marksteinhilber @ Jan 17 2018, 12:15 PM) *

Sorry, but ethics alarm is going off in my head. It seems to me that you've lost 100 points because your motor is at 165 rwhp, nowhere near stock. I don't know how doctored up the Miata's and BMWs are, but it would seem the rules should add points for either making specific modifications, OR by adding points based on the amount of hp over stock. PCA does this in their rules for Autocross and uses dyno Hp in a formula that considers power to weight ratio. It seemed fair to me and I had tight competition (tenths of seconds over a mile course) with mostly stock 944s, 356s, and other 914s. 0-250 performance point cars in bottom (slowest) class. PCA also uses the performance point classes to compare drivers of all classes in a handicap system. I was happy to come out in top half with boxsters, 911s and other much higher performance cars under this type of handicapping system.

Hiding Megasquirt in a stock ECU and claiming stock injection when the dyno says 165 rwhp, come on!


I was waiting for this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
Champcar has no idea what my car makes or any other car for that matter. I don't claim my car is a 1.7. They know that I'm a B car. (under 2.4 liter) I have nothing to hide. When I do NASA I run in TTC. HP to weight is how I ended up in that class. If Champcar did a HP to weight I'd be stoked!
About the Megasquirt...I don't even know what that is!! I'm assuming it some sort of injection. I was going to read about it tonight just to understand what the other posted were talking about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
I like the call out!! Hope I explained myself and we were running second in our class right up until the transmission broke.
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Jetsetsurfshop   914-4 factory induction   Jan 16 2018, 04:54 PM
Racer   All US 4-Cyl had Fuel Injection. 914/6 had carbs. ...   Jan 16 2018, 05:17 PM
bretth   Yes 74-75 Euro 1.8 had dual single barrel Webers. ...   Jan 16 2018, 07:45 PM
914forme   :agree: not perhaps what you would want to use in ...   Jan 16 2018, 07:57 PM
GeorgeRud   The carbs are shown in the Parts books. I even sa...   Jan 16 2018, 07:57 PM
Perry Kiehl   It's only an issue if you are losing by 50pst ...   Jan 16 2018, 08:07 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   I thought all 914-4 were injected. This is awesome...   Jan 17 2018, 09:10 AM
jd74914   My engine is not stock. Last dyno was 165rwhp. Ru...   Jan 17 2018, 01:14 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   My engine is not stock. Last dyno was 165rwhp. R...   Jan 17 2018, 01:54 PM
krazykonrad   Not to hijack the thread, but could you give us a ...   Jan 17 2018, 12:59 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   Not to hijack the thread, but could you give us a...   Jan 17 2018, 02:23 PM
Perry Kiehl   The old Haynes manual has photos of the 914 carb s...   Jan 17 2018, 01:23 PM
marksteinhilber   Sorry, but ethics alarm is going off in my head. ...   Jan 17 2018, 02:15 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   Sorry, but ethics alarm is going off in my head. ...   Jan 17 2018, 02:41 PM
jd74914   I was waiting for this. :Qarl: Champcar has no ...   Jan 17 2018, 02:42 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   I was waiting for this. :Qarl: Champcar has no...   Jan 17 2018, 03:47 PM
ablesnead   Shane Mega squirt is a stand alone ECU...Free NO ...   Jan 17 2018, 04:02 PM
Dave_Darling   Go to the Porsche website, find Porsche Classic. ...   Jan 18 2018, 01:06 PM
SKL1   Learn something every day! Having one of the...   Jan 18 2018, 03:00 PM
siverson   > Learn something every day! Having one of ...   Jan 18 2018, 05:13 PM


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