914-4 factory induction, Always FI? |
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914-4 factory induction, Always FI? |
Jetsetsurfshop |
Jan 16 2018, 04:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 814 Joined: 7-April 11 From: Marco Island Florida Member No.: 12,907 Region Association: South East States |
I need help with a rule in the race series I've been running. (Champ car)
The way the rules are written means they hit me for 50pts each for my carbs. If any 914-4 were sold with carbs instead of FI I could make my case and use those points for other needed stuff (transmission cooler!!) |
marksteinhilber |
Jan 17 2018, 02:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 229 Joined: 18-October 12 From: Foothill Ranch, CA 92610 Member No.: 15,057 Region Association: Southern California |
Sorry, but ethics alarm is going off in my head. It seems to me that you've lost 100 points because your motor is at 165 rwhp, nowhere near stock. I don't know how doctored up the Miata's and BMWs are, but it would seem the rules should add points for either making specific modifications, OR by adding points based on the amount of hp over stock. PCA does this in their rules for Autocross and uses dyno Hp in a formula that considers power to weight ratio. It seemed fair to me and I had tight competition (tenths of seconds over a mile course) with mostly stock 944s, 356s, and other 914s. 0-250 performance point cars in bottom (slowest) class. PCA also uses the performance point classes to compare drivers of all classes in a handicap system. I was happy to come out in top half with boxsters, 911s and other much higher performance cars under this type of handicapping system.
Hiding Megasquirt in a stock ECU and claiming stock injection when the dyno says 165 rwhp, come on! |
jd74914 |
Jan 17 2018, 02:42 PM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,780 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
I was waiting for this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Champcar has no idea what my car makes or any other car for that matter. I don't claim my car is a 1.7. They know that I'm a B car. (under 2.4 liter) I have nothing to hide. When I do NASA I run in TTC. HP to weight is how I ended up in that class. If Champcar did a HP to weight I'd be stoked! About the Megasquirt...I don't even know what that is!! I'm assuming it some sort of injection. I was going to read about it tonight just to understand what the other posted were talking about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I like the call out!! Hope I explained myself and we were running second in our class right up until the transmission broke. Interesting. That's pretty cool. So since you have an OE engine you get penalized for mods to it, but don't receive points based on hp like you would for an engine swap? Megasquirt is a low cost aftermarket fuel injection system that's rather popular. Tons of threads on it! |
Jetsetsurfshop |
Jan 17 2018, 03:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 814 Joined: 7-April 11 From: Marco Island Florida Member No.: 12,907 Region Association: South East States |
I was waiting for this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Champcar has no idea what my car makes or any other car for that matter. I don't claim my car is a 1.7. They know that I'm a B car. (under 2.4 liter) I have nothing to hide. When I do NASA I run in TTC. HP to weight is how I ended up in that class. If Champcar did a HP to weight I'd be stoked! About the Megasquirt...I don't even know what that is!! I'm assuming it some sort of injection. I was going to read about it tonight just to understand what the other posted were talking about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I like the call out!! Hope I explained myself and we were running second in our class right up until the transmission broke. Interesting. That's pretty cool. So since you have an OE engine you get penalized for mods to it, but don't receive points based on hp like you would for an engine swap? Megasquirt is a low cost aftermarket fuel injection system that's rather popular. Tons of threads on it! They do have a engine swap calculator. Their is a few teams with 914's that have done pretty good with that. I think they are suppose to run a stock form of that engine they swapped in (stock HP). I "chumped" my engine up to compete with the newer cars. Theres also a VW bug out there turning some good laps too. I have a feeling that he's not a 1300 single port! I really just want to prove that an air cooled 914 can be a top ten finisher. I think we had it this year except we had transmission problems again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Next time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
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