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> lift cable broke!, and this lift was regularly serviced!!!!
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post Feb 16 2018, 10:05 AM
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The cable broke on our outdoor pressure washing lift, two months after a complete inspection of all of our lifts! One never knows, accidents happen. Car fortunately has minimal damage. Will post pictures of the lifting and repair later


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post Feb 16 2018, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Feb 16 2018, 05:19 PM) *

It would seem that the responsible thing to do if getting new lifts is to cut up the old lifts to make sure they are not put back into service.

Our used lifts are still very good. Its just expensive to take them down, transport and set them up. We get a deal on shipping and setup on the new ones so it's just easier to leave the old ones in place. Also lets us work on cars longer during the transition.
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post Feb 16 2018, 04:29 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) we are moving to a bigger shop and just buying all new lifts. Our old ones are still very nice but it was easier to sell than move to the new location.


Do we need to know who bought them.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
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post Feb 16 2018, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 16 2018, 03:51 PM) *

reminds me of another incident, anyone know which ship this is? (a test for you history buffs!!

I don't remember the name of the ship but wasn't that one in Chicago?
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post Feb 16 2018, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 16 2018, 04:51 PM) *

reminds me of another incident, anyone know which ship this is? (a test for you history buffs!!


SS Normandie, 1942, burned and capsized at NYC pier.
Less damage than your Palma green '75
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post Feb 16 2018, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 16 2018, 08:05 AM) *

The cable broke on our outdoor pressure washing lift, two months after a complete inspection of all of our lifts! One never knows, accidents happen. Car fortunately has minimal damage. Will post pictures of the lifting and repair later

The teeth look like backup plan items. When going up are they not able to engage? Sorry to tilt the thread sideways
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post Feb 16 2018, 05:57 PM
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good man, some think that it was sabotage. Many called it the most beautiful ocean liner ever built. Those French!


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QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 16 2018, 04:51 PM) *

reminds me of another incident, anyone know which ship this is? (a test for you history buffs!!


SS Normandie, 1942, burned and capsized at NYC pier.
Less damage than your Palma green '75
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post Feb 16 2018, 05:59 PM
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I respect the Dr. for sharing that incident and pictures. I am in the middle of getting a lift installed in my home garage and it never hurts to remind everyone that lifts aren't bullet proof. Hopefully the damage to the 914 was minor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Feb 16 2018, 07:52 PM
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In my 3+ decades of working in dealerships I've seen around a dozen cars fall from lifts. Some were due to lift failure and others due to operator error. This is the first time I've seen a 914 fall from a lift. Thanks George (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) JK really that sucks.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Feb 16 2018, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(Edward Blume @ Feb 16 2018, 09:34 AM) *

Let's have a caption contest:

"Here at 914 Headquarters we NEVER let anything slide..."



"Wanting to thoroughly clean the underside of his car, Mel called a buddy to help him flip it over."
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post Mar 23 2018, 11:06 PM
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Hey George, any update or pictures of the carnage? How bad is the car?
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post Mar 24 2018, 07:52 AM
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Glad no one was hurt, and thanks for posting. It’s a great reminder that one always has to be aware of safety and thinking of what could happen if something fails. I’ve often though about fabricating some sort of bar to support my scissor lift in case the hydraulics fail. There is a ratcheting safety system on the lift, but it’s a cast piece from China, so I figure another backup would not be a bad idea. I’ve always kept a floor jack under my car when it was raised on jack stands as well.
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post Mar 24 2018, 09:19 AM
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We purchased a door jamb and a door from parts heaven to match this pristine california car, a new sill from our inventory, and have pulled the car back into shape, will post some pictures monday. Pulled beautifully as 914s always do

The lift company said, "well we do not know what happened to our report, in it it said not to use the lift"


I knew what I wanted to say but as usual held my tongue.
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post Mar 24 2018, 09:22 AM
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We do too George, always a backup. Real stupid that that lift purchased from the bow dealer ship did not have dual stopping pegs, would have been easy to install when the lift was made.
I sold the lift so I would never have to look at it again, along with another lift in anticipation of purchasing new rotary lifts, they call "the Porsche lifts" Men are working on the building today in anticipation of the new roof extension. We will have a pretty great place here when things are completed, and my completed dream of having a Jay Leno like garage in the back to really display some nice hardware!


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Glad no one was hurt, and thanks for posting. It’s a great reminder that one always has to be aware of safety and thinking of what could happen if something fails. I’ve often though about fabricating some sort of bar to support my scissor lift in case the hydraulics fail. There is a ratcheting safety system on the lift, but it’s a cast piece from China, so I figure another backup would not be a bad idea. I’ve always kept a floor jack under my car when it was raised on jack stands as well.
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post Mar 24 2018, 09:43 AM
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I'm lucky that I didn't have a catastrophe. The 1st 18 mo's that I owned my lift, I would leave the car lifted on it for days and even weeks at a time. One night while watching the News I saw a report on an Earthquake. It then dawned on me what could happen in that I live in SoCal. I now lower the car as soon as possible and definitely overnight. If the wheels are off I lower it to inches off the ground. Hindsight is 20/20 and Shit happens! What happened to George happens. I believe he showed "Due Diligence" by having his equipment inspected and the liability should be upon the company that did the inspection. JMHO. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Mar 24 2018, 09:43 AM
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I replaced the cables twice on my two post lift in 10 years of daily use. On my Bend Pack, the cables do not do the lifting, hydraulic rams in each post do that. The cables merely balance the system so the arms go up and down evenly side to side. When a cable breaks, one side will go up or come down faster than the other. I never dropped a car off of the lift when this happened. I was able to carefully lower the car. I had new heavy duty cables made up by an outfit that makes cables for cranes. The cable always failed where it went around the lower pulley. I kept an eye on that after the first one failed and replaced them when they started to fray.

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post Mar 24 2018, 09:46 AM
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post Mar 24 2018, 10:25 AM
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It seems it happens to others as well.Attached Image Attached Image

Isn't that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) car?
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post Mar 24 2018, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Feb 16 2018, 11:18 AM) *

More rust on that lift than on the last 914 I saw at a salvage yard. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) If I saw equipment like that with leaves and debris on the floor, I think I would look for another shop. Certainly if I needed something done on a vintage Porsche. Even a NARP. And why post a picture of that 356? Are you trying to say the 914 that fell on it's side isn't really that bad? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)


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Thankfully no one was injured!

Lift accidents happen more than you would think.

OSHA regs cover Inspections and Training-
Lifts must be inspected annually by a certified tech.
Operators need to have yearly training
Owners should keep a log.

Depending on what state you reside, lifts may be covered under state building codes.

The UK has taken the safe course in regards to 2 post lifts-
"It was agreed with representatives of the MVR industry, through the MVR Forum, that arm locking systems should be fitted to all these lifts. Therefore, any remaining 2-post lifts without arm locking should now have been taken out of use or scrapped." Sensible action.

And they have identified certain Chinese Models-
"Problems with the design, installation, use and maintenance of arm locking mechanisms continue to cause concern in newer machinery. Some new Chinese-manufactured 2-post lifts have been found where the locking mechanism has been poorly manufactured and failed to work from installation or within a short period of use. Further details are available in Sector Information Minute 03/2008/12" "Defective locking devices identified on modern 2-post lifts".

An employee injury could mean OSHA reports, inspectors, fines, lawsuits, and pain and suffering. Logbooks going back yrs. Warning and safety decals in place...etc...

Resources-
https://www.apta.com/mc/annual/previous/201...stein_Steve.pdf

UK -
http://www.hse.gov.uk/mvr/topics/fallofflifts.htm
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Sorry that happened!
But more importantly, will you let me into the 356 garage next time I get down there?
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