FS: 1972 Porsche 914 1.7L Options

[callaghanta]

1972 Porsche 914
4 cyl, 1.7L, air cooled, mid engine, fuel injected
104,000 miles
Owned car since 1976 (2nd owner) have all maintenance records
Matching tags
Always garaged
Includes car cover
Runs good
Good brakes
Clear title
Minimal rust in typical areas
Tires in good condition
Car Located in San Diego, CA for past 40 yrs.
$12,500

Text Tom at 817-726-8570 if interested
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[Tom_T]

Hi Tom,

You might want to do an intro post about yourself & your history with your 72 in the Garage Forum, so that you're off of the "new here" member - & then you can put in a link to this ad. That way you'll be seen as a real longtime 914er - which you are!

Out of curiosity - how did you end up with a 73-74 front bumper with the "tits" (bumper gaurds)?

It's probably a good idea to add that explanation here, as well as when the repaint or touch-up was done (orange overspray at the relay board cover pic) - just so buyers know the history better. I'm sure that you'll as get requests for pix of the underside as well.

Being from SD too myself (Uni Hi `70) & I kept going back to SD all the time since HS - even after moving to LA for college & then to Huntington Beach in 74, & getting my 73 914-2.0 in Dec. 75 (also a 2nd owner) - so I'm sure that I'd seen your 914 around town down there since then! Mine was Gold 75-Aug. 76, Copper Aug 76-80, & Anthracite Gray as in the avatar pic 80-present - so you may recall seeing me in mine 75-85 when I was still daily driving it & down in SD area often back then (but I'll be restoring it back to it's original "white" L80E Light Ivory)

The 72 914/4 is the best of the 1.7 breed - since it incorporated many of the later 914s' updates - including the movable passenger seat, added dash vents, a better shifting "tweaked" tailshifter trans, etc.

But the 72 1.7L was still at the 80 HP of the 70-72 1.7L's (73 1.7s dropped to 72 HP due to added smog eqpt.) - which is more than the 76 HP 74-75 1.8L & almost what the 75-76 2.0L had at 88 HP - especially when factoring in the added weight of the 75-76 914s lowering the power-to-weight ration due to the door with side-impact beams & the bigger/heavier 7 mph bumpers (BUBS - Big Ugly Bumpers to some).

In fact, before I got my 73 2L - I'd test driven both new 75 & 76 2.0 examples at dealers thinking of buying a brand new 914, but found them no more peppy than my gal-pal friend's 72 1.7L example!

PS - our 914s are only 6 months apart by VIN date - mine is 8/72 & the Chassis No. translates to a 8/31/72 build date!

With all that - I've either convinced other buyers that your 72 1.7 is a great option - or given you second thoughts on selling "your baby"!

As a fellow long time owner, I hope it's the latter! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Good Luck either Way! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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[liebe]

Hi Tom,

You might want to do an intro post about yourself & your history with your 72 in the Garage Forum, so that you're off of the "new here" member - & then you can put in a link to this ad. That way you'll be seen as a real longtime 914er - which you are!

Out of curiosity - how did you end up with a 73-74 front bumper with the "tits" (bumper gaurds)?

It's probably a good idea to add that explanation here, as well as when the repaint or touch-up was done (orange overspray at the relay board cover pic) - just so buyers know the history better. I'm sure that you'll as get requests for pix of the underside as well.

Being from SD too myself (Uni Hi `70) & I kept going back to SD all the time since HS - even after moving to LA for college & then to Huntington Beach in 74, & getting my 73 914-2.0 in Dec. 75 (also a 2nd owner) - so I'm sure that I'd seen your 914 around town down there since then! Mine was Gold 75-Aug. 76, Copper Aug 76-80, & Anthracite Gray as in the avatar pic 80-present - so you may recall seeing me in mine 75-85 when I was still daily driving it & down in SD area often back then (but I'll be restoring it back to it's original "white" L80E Light Ivory)

The 72 914/4 is the best of the 1.7 breed - since it incorporated many of the later 914s' updates - including the movable passenger seat, added dash vents, a better shifting "tweaked" tailshifter trans, etc.

But the 72 1.7L was still at the 80 HP of the 70-72 1.7L's (73 1.7s dropped to 72 HP due to added smog eqpt.) - which is more than the 76 HP 74-75 1.8L & almost what the 75-76 2.0L had at 88 HP - especially when factoring in the added weight of the 75-76 914s lowering the power-to-weight ration due to the door with side-impact beams & the bigger/heavier 7 mph bumpers (BUBS - Big Ugly Bumpers to some).

In fact, before I got my 73 2L - I'd test driven both new 75 & 76 2.0 examples at dealers thinking of buying a brand new 914, but found them no more peppy than my gal-pal friend's 72 1.7L example!

PS - our 914s are only 6 months apart by VIN date - mine is 8/72 & the Chassis No. translates to a 8/31/72 build date!

With all that - I've either convinced other buyers that your 72 1.7 is a great option - or given you second thoughts on selling "your baby"!

As a fellow long time owner, I hope it's the latter! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Good Luck either Way! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Tom
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This car looks great, specially for the cars out there and there asking price. I personallly like the car, love the color.

GLWS

[Blue6]

Tom, the license plate on the car would have been issued in 1979. Had it been previously registered out of state?

[Tom_T]

Tom, the license plate on the car would have been issued in 1979. Had it been previously registered out of state?

Blue6 -

I'm curious as to what is your source to place that year of issuance by plate number?
Do you have a link or a pic for it which you can share with members here?

His 610XMZ blue/gold plate number is certainly well after in the series, past my 1st sold `73 2L on 11/9/72 at 530GVS, but I thought that DMV had moved to 7 digit blue/gold plates by 77, 78 or early 79, after running out of 6 digit plates at 999ZZZ.

Side note - I wonder who got 914ZZZ?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) .... That's only 85 from the final 6 digit blue/gold plate 999ZZZ.

Perhaps it was replated by DMV for the current 2nd owner Tom, when he purchased it from the OO or dealer in 76?

Good question for the seller, but you may need to PM or email him, cuz he doesn't seem to be posting anything further on here as yet.

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Tom
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[JeffBowlsby]

Side note - I wonder who got 914ZZZ?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) .... That's only 85 from the final 6 digit blue/gold plate 999ZZZ.

My understanding is that the sequence would have been:

914ZZZ, 915AAA, 915AAB, 915AAC

Not

914ZZZ, 915ZZZ, 916ZZZ

So there would have been way more than 85 to the end of the blue/gold plates, from 914ZZZ.

[Tom_T]

Side note - I wonder who got 914ZZZ?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) .... That's only 85 from the final 6 digit blue/gold plate 999ZZZ.

My understanding is that the sequence would have been:

914ZZZ, 915AAA, 915AAB, 915AAC

Not

914ZZZ, 915ZZZ, 916ZZZ

So there would have been way more than 85 to the end of the blue/gold plates, from 914ZZZ.

Jeff,

I remember it the other way - with the letters grouped by year (roughly) & the number 001-999 before rolling over to the next letter, but I'm checking with a couple of license plate history sources.

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Tom
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[toolguy]

Groups of plates were distributed to different DMV offices in blocks of 1000 with
the letter combination consistent. . . Tom is correct, it used to be you could estimate the registration date by the letter combination. .
Black plates were last issued for MY 1969

[Tom_T]

Side note - I wonder who got 914ZZZ?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) .... That's only 85 from the final 6 digit blue/gold plate 999ZZZ.

My understanding is that the sequence would have been:

914ZZZ, 915AAA, 915AAB, 915AAC

Not

914ZZZ, 915ZZZ, 916ZZZ

So there would have been way more than 85 to the end of the blue/gold plates, from 914ZZZ.

Jeff,

I'd always understood that it was numbers in sequence 1st, then roll over to the next letter in the back 3 spots (or wherever the letters sit).
i.e.: your latter example 914ZZZ, 915ZZZ, 916ZZZ....

It seems to me that all of the letter groups are in the same year.

So I checked with the American License Plate Collectors Assn, & I was right, as Dave also said, & this is the Q & A below ....

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From: Jeff Minard
Sent: Feb 21, 2018 10:46 AM
To: Tom
Subject: CA License plate question

Hello Tom:

You are right on the first choice- numbers first, then letters, regardless of their position on the plate. It runs 000 AAA thru 999AAA and then 000AAB, and onward. By the way, they did actually start with 000 - and end with 999, so 001 was the 2nd plate.

Jeff Minard
ALPCA license plate historian

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Name: Tom T
ALPCA #:
Subject: Other

I'm not a member nor collector, but have a question which came up this week on the 914world.com website about how California sequenced their Auto plate numbers from the Gold-on-Blue era 6-digit plates.

Did the number them 001AAA, 002AAA, 003AAA - or - 001AAA, 001BAA, 001CAA ??

I seem to recall it was the former sequence, then once reaching 999AAA, it would go to 001BAA - or am I incorrect?

Thanx for your help!

Tom
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Another mystery solved! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Tom
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[callaghanta]

Car is SOLD

[Mikey914]

No doubt,
Great value for a survivor car!

[IronHillRestorations]

Someone was smart enough to drill holes in the rear trunk floor