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Car and Driver Article, 914 2.0 for $100k? |
mmascari |
Feb 24 2018, 03:30 PM
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Feb 24 2018, 03:47 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,810 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
They are misguided.
Although I personally think that 914s are worth more than any other car in my delusion, a car that has had a hundred holes bored into it and filled with tar is not worth 100 grand. I would value this car at 50 max. Any more than that and the person purchasing does not know what they are looking at, having no idea of the value |
GeorgeRud |
Feb 24 2018, 07:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
It’ll be interesting to see what happens at the auction. If you have a couple of bidders that want something different (and have had a few adult beverages to loosen their wallets), it might get a fair price with the Brumos name.
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SKL1 |
Feb 24 2018, 07:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,597 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Yeah it's too bad that car was originally Ziebarted... too bad we didn't know more way back when.
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Steve |
Feb 24 2018, 11:40 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,565 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
Love the comments!! Someone compared our cars to a rotary phone versus a new Porsche would be a smart phone. You would have to be one hell of a collector with money to burn to throw away a 100k on a rotary phone.
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horizontally-opposed |
Feb 25 2018, 12:17 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,430 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Did I miss it, or did the piece sort of skip so many incredible sale prices for 914-4 vehicles at auction on the way to "struggled to surpass $15,000" comment? Also, we've seen good 914-6 vehicles go well over $70k.
Now, do I think this is a $100k 914-4? Personally, no. But then, a certain yeller big-bumpered 1.8 caught me off guard...and I'd rather have this than that. YMMV. |
EdwardBlume |
Feb 25 2018, 06:33 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
Car and Driver's writer standards have dropped, maybe their editing standards too. Someone needs teach them about 914s or better yet, show them how to ask someone that knows.
Sure, its a Brumos car, but even if it were Charo's personal gucci gucci car, that would only take the car up so far.... This is pure hype. Look on the bright side, maybe if it goes for $125K or so, all of those BHCC cars on eBay will start moving! |
carr914 |
Feb 25 2018, 06:50 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,029 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
I do not remember Ever seeing that car at Brumos! And I went thru their Museum every few months in the 2000s
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Cal |
Feb 25 2018, 10:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 614 Joined: 19-November 14 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 18,138 Region Association: North East States |
They are misguided. Although I personally think that 914s are worth more than any other car in my delusion, a car that has had a hundred holes bored into it and filled with tar is not worth 100 grand. I would value this car at 50 max. Any more than that and the person purchasing does not know what they are looking at, having no idea of the value I'm not sure the rust proofing treatment is going to effect the value of this car....it was very common back in the day. I've seen million dollar vintage cars with the same treatment and it hasn't affected their value. Attached thumbnail(s) |
mepstein |
Feb 25 2018, 10:36 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,220 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I remember going to the mall with my father and stopping at a Ziebart booth. My dad was interested until the salesman told him they would drill 100 1/2” holes in his Jaguar.
The white ‘75 that I found just 2 miles from my house was a one owner car that was Ziebarted. It had 100 holes with black plastic plugs all throughout the car. Nothing could stop it from rusting while it was left outside in a dirt lot for 4 years. What I found funny is they had drilled a hole in the bottom door sill where the rear fender starts. There is no cavity there, it’s just one layer. So it was a hole to a wide open space. It must have been a spot on the chart so the tech made the hole even though the back of the fender was wide open. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) |
ConeDodger |
Feb 25 2018, 11:19 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,552 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
The R&T article is much better writing.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/cl...socialflowFBRAT |
Pursang |
Feb 25 2018, 11:23 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 229 Joined: 19-January 13 From: Beaverton Member No.: 15,386 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
...and here's another thing, the mileage is so low that it adds to the value of the car but practically guarantees that whomever buys the car will keep it as a garage queen, probably not accumulating another 5000 miles before hell freezes over. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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struckn |
Feb 25 2018, 12:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,069 Joined: 9-November 11 From: South Central York Pennsyvania Member No.: 13,764 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Interesting but who cares. I got mine and you got yours, and those who never owned one will never get what the 914 is all about. Also, people try to compare the 914 to more modern cars which is a stupid comparison, IMO.
Some of us love the old feel of how things use to be when cars had to be driven verses the new cars which are boring, over designed and engineered. Two different Worlds. Didn't Jerry Seinfeld keep his and sell the rest. Leno loves the 914s also. |
dcheek |
Feb 25 2018, 04:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
In my opinion this sale is going to set the bar for 4 cylinder 914's moving forward. The fact that there has been so much chatter on the internet and publications is fueling the fire. I guess you could chalk that up to good marketing on the part of Gooding, or that low mileage original 914's are really rare. Either way I think we are going to see a record here.
This car has a lot going for it; color, mileage and being a 2 liter are just a few. Doesn't hurt to throw the Brumos name in there even though it has no racing history. Add that Gooding attracts the high rollers and a BIG Porsche turnout at Amelia, and you have the perfect storm to blow away the numbers. Again IMHO. Dave |
Cal |
Feb 25 2018, 05:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 614 Joined: 19-November 14 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 18,138 Region Association: North East States |
In my opinion this sale is going to set the bar for 4 cylinder 914's moving forward. The fact that there has been so much chatter on the internet and publications is fueling the fire. I guess you could chalk that up to good marketing on the part of Gooding, or that low mileage original 914's are really rare. Either way I think we are going to see a record here. This car has a lot going for it; color, mileage and being a 2 liter are just a few. Doesn't hurt to throw the Brumos name in there even though it has no racing history. Add that Gooding attracts the high rollers and a BIG Porsche turnout at Amelia, and you have the perfect storm to blow away the numbers. Again IMHO. Dave I agree.....this should bring big money from a collector. It's interesting to see how the values are climbing for high end cars....here's what hagerty values a '74 2.0L. Attached thumbnail(s) |
914_7T3 |
Feb 25 2018, 06:04 PM
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Please forgive me, I'm new to all of this! Group: Members Posts: 1,846 Joined: 3-April 17 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 20,991 Region Association: Southern California |
In my opinion this sale is going to set the bar for 4 cylinder 914's moving forward. The fact that there has been so much chatter on the internet and publications is fueling the fire. I guess you could chalk that up to good marketing on the part of Gooding, or that low mileage original 914's are really rare. Either way I think we are going to see a record here. This car has a lot going for it; color, mileage and being a 2 liter are just a few. Doesn't hurt to throw the Brumos name in there even though it has no racing history. Add that Gooding attracts the high rollers and a BIG Porsche turnout at Amelia, and you have the perfect storm to blow away the numbers. Again IMHO. Dave I agree.....this should bring big money from a collector. It's interesting to see how the values are climbing for high end cars....here's what hagerty values a '74 2.0L. Holy Shiz, when did that happen??? The #1 Concours '73 & '74 2.0 cars were $34K 60 days ago. I guess these are considered real Porsches now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) |
dcheek |
Feb 26 2018, 07:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
In my opinion this sale is going to set the bar for 4 cylinder 914's moving forward. The fact that there has been so much chatter on the internet and publications is fueling the fire. I guess you could chalk that up to good marketing on the part of Gooding, or that low mileage original 914's are really rare. Either way I think we are going to see a record here. This car has a lot going for it; color, mileage and being a 2 liter are just a few. Doesn't hurt to throw the Brumos name in there even though it has no racing history. Add that Gooding attracts the high rollers and a BIG Porsche turnout at Amelia, and you have the perfect storm to blow away the numbers. Again IMHO. Dave I agree.....this should bring big money from a collector. It's interesting to see how the values are climbing for high end cars....here's what hagerty values a '74 2.0L. Holy Shiz, when did that happen??? The #1 Concours '73 & '74 2.0 cars were $34K 60 days ago. I guess these are considered real Porsches now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) What happened? What's happening is that people are waking up and realizing what a wonderful sports car it is. It's long overdue. Dave |
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