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mepstein
post Mar 14 2018, 05:07 PM
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Got an email from restoration design -

To all our valued customers,

President Trump has signed an executive order imposing a duty of 25% on all parts produced outside of North America. This will include all parts produced in Europe, China and Taiwan. This order does not affect Canadian parts at this time.

If you anticipate needing parts, call us or look at our website to determine which parts this executive order will affect. To avoid the 25% duty rate, parts will need to cross into the USA prior to March 23rd, 2018, when the executive order will take effect.
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Tom_T
post Mar 14 2018, 06:20 PM
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Mark -

That makes absolutely no sense for several reasons. I think RD is just trying to justify a 25% price hike via Trump.

First of all - as the quote correctly states, Canada is NOT subject to this 25% tariff yet, pending whatever they do with them & Mexico on NAFTA. So how are F they at all impacted by the RoW 25% tariff!?

Second - the tariff is only on processed bulk steel & aluminum - NOT on the end products, but even if RD imports steel from China - it goes directly to them in Canada, & not via the US - & there is no Canadian tariff on Chinese steel.

Third - The tariff is NOT on finished products like RD repair panels, & they're not using tariffed steel - so what is their production cost impact, with them being outside of the tariff zone of the USA!?

Fourth - even for producers of steel & aluminum products here in the USA - the cost increase of the raw sheet or ingot products of 25% is NOT a 25% increase of 25% of the final finished products, since the raw metals is only part of the production total costs. In most products made here in the USA, manufacturers are projecting a 5-17% total finished product price increase - depending on how much the other production costs & labor contribute to the total.

We get tracking of the costs of building materials weekly, & on the steel & aluminum products only are those 5-18% increases expected (a few as high as 20%) - mostly in the 7-12% range for structural steel, nails/screws/connectors. And the lower end of the range involves the switch to US Steel from Chinese/etc. steel - thus avoiding the 25% tariff induced increase.

So unless RD's products with prices to increase are both made in the USA & produced with foreign steel from the subject tariffed regions (i.e.: not from US made steel) & shipped from within the USA (Canadian Tariffs would add about as much if imported there, then shipped back to the US) ....

Then it's just RD's "Trumped up" price increase (pun intended), or else the owner's political statement against the tariff & Trump.

IMHO as someone trained in economics, broad tariffs are never a winning solution, & targeted tariffs or better yet, price controls - are a much better route to getting fair pricing from foreign producers. China charges a 25% tariff on US & Canadian cars, while the US only charges 2.5% (I don't recall Canada's tariff on them), & China dumps their steel & aluminum at less that production costs, & use questionable labor to start with - so even their production costs are unfairly low.

I think that RD's attempt at sneaking in a hefty price increase &/or as a retaliatory political statement will only hurt them in the long run, because they're punishing where they sell the bulk of their 356, 911/912, 914, etc. resto steel products.

I call BS on this one!

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post Mar 15 2018, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Mar 14 2018, 04:20 PM) *


I think that RD's attempt at sneaking in a hefty price increase &/or as a retaliatory political statement will only hurt them in the long run, because they're punishing where they sell the bulk of their 356, 911/912, 914, etc. resto steel products.

I call BS on this one!

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Tom,

We have done our research, there will be tariffs on finished parts manufactured outside of North America. We offer parts to our customers that are manufactured in Europe, Taiwan, and other places outside of North America.

Parts that are produced by us, and north American suppliers will not be affected.

Before you start pointing fingers and calling BS, I think you should get your facts straight. Dont be accusing RD of things that you dont even know.

We have been supplying the Porsche community with panels for nearly 10 years now. It is our goal to have superior customer service and this email was sent out to inform people of what the situation is concerning steel and aluminum products crossing the border.

All our steel coils has been purchased from a supplier in Michigan for the entire time we have been in business. Any other steel is sourced locally and made in North America.

We have several brokers that handle our shipments crossing the border. They have taken the time to read the bill carefully. They have determined that the 25% will be affecting finished product manufactured outside of North America

This was not a scare tactic, and honestly I am disappointing that people would think this.

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mepstein   Some replacement parts to increase in price   Mar 14 2018, 05:07 PM
Tom_T   Mark - That makes absolutely no sense for severa...   Mar 14 2018, 06:20 PM
peteyd   I think that RD's attempt at sneaking in a h...   Mar 15 2018, 09:03 AM
JOEPROPER   :agree: Well said.   Mar 14 2018, 06:36 PM
rhodyguy   Politics aside, why should they take a cut in pay?...   Mar 14 2018, 06:37 PM
BENBRO02   I want to comment but I can't do it without ge...   Mar 14 2018, 06:47 PM
BENBRO02   :agree: with almost all of Tom T's post.   Mar 14 2018, 06:48 PM
Mikey914   We move a lot of aluminum. Most of it is from the ...   Mar 14 2018, 07:08 PM
mepstein   I’m just passing along an email that was sent to...   Mar 14 2018, 07:12 PM
Mikey914   Thanks for the heads up. It really looks like thi...   Mar 14 2018, 07:13 PM
The Cabinetmaker   I got the same email today, and thought the same t...   Mar 14 2018, 07:21 PM
ablesnead   it appears to me , if the above information in Tom...   Mar 14 2018, 07:53 PM
914_teener   it appears to me , if the above information in To...   Mar 14 2018, 08:53 PM
rick 918-S   it appears to me , if the above information in T...   Mar 15 2018, 06:38 AM
914_teener   it appears to me , if the above information in To...   Mar 14 2018, 09:17 PM
MarkV   Pretty poorly worded email to send out to your ven...   Mar 14 2018, 09:04 PM
r_towle   This is why we all need to move to Carbon Fiber pa...   Mar 14 2018, 09:23 PM
Krieger   Fear is a sales tactic.   Mar 14 2018, 10:49 PM
porschetub   Got an email from restoration design - To all o...   Mar 14 2018, 11:00 PM
injunmort   i call bullshit on the reason for price increases....   Mar 15 2018, 05:41 AM
rmdinmd   What I read was they said it doesn't affect pa...   Mar 15 2018, 06:45 AM
Edward Blume   As a student of economics (I don't do it for a...   Mar 15 2018, 07:00 AM
mbseto   Well I was ready to be outraged, but I didn't ...   Mar 15 2018, 07:27 AM
cary   I just rolled thru the catalog. We're pretty l...   Mar 15 2018, 07:58 AM
Mueller   Reading between the lines, they purchase material ...   Mar 15 2018, 07:59 AM
Edward Blume   Reading between the lines, they purchase material...   Mar 15 2018, 08:06 AM
Edward Blume   Reading between the lines, they purchase materia...   Mar 15 2018, 08:07 AM
Mueller   Reading between the lines, they purchase materia...   Mar 15 2018, 10:01 AM
bdstone914   Some of the RD parts carried by them are Dansk. Y...   Mar 15 2018, 08:48 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   Restoration Design parts and prices are top qualit...   Mar 15 2018, 08:48 AM
Andyrew   All of the manufacturers in our industry are calli...   Mar 15 2018, 09:01 AM
malcolm2   https://us5.campaign-archive.com/?u=410d561...mp;e...   Mar 15 2018, 09:03 AM
gothspeed   :agree: with almost all of Tom T's post. :a...   Mar 15 2018, 10:11 AM
914_teener   :agree: with almost all of Tom T's post. :...   Mar 15 2018, 11:27 AM
Mblizzard   Sometimes I have trouble with the big words and ha...   Mar 15 2018, 10:39 AM
rhodyguy   Structural steel has nothing to do concerning stam...   Mar 15 2018, 10:56 AM
MarkV   Sometimes I have trouble with the big words and h...   Mar 15 2018, 11:01 AM
peteyd   I don't have time to sit here and debate with ...   Mar 15 2018, 12:18 PM
mepstein   If I have to pay an extra $15 for a battery t...   Mar 15 2018, 12:41 PM
gothspeed   [quote name='Mblizzard' post='2589242' date='Mar ...   Mar 15 2018, 01:53 PM
ablesnead   my point in my reply , that was questioned by a fe...   Mar 15 2018, 03:45 PM
Larmo63   It seems like the real issue here is China dumping...   Mar 15 2018, 04:33 PM
gothspeed   It seems like the real issue here is China dumpin...   Mar 15 2018, 04:40 PM
914_teener   It seems like the real issue here is China dumpin...   Mar 15 2018, 08:09 PM
Vacca Rabite   You guys may not realize it but RD also sells BMW ...   Mar 16 2018, 09:31 AM


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