Transmission Case Protection, success Options

[Mblizzard]

I've used Gibbs Brand spray lube on all the metal surfaces including the 6 fan and housing and really like the natural finish.

http://www.gibbsbrandlubricant.com/

-Harry

Never seen this or used it. But I have concerns that they only identify approximately 70% of the ingredients on the SDS. Also this is very flammable and the permissible exposure to the chemical listed are pretty low. So something that should be used with caution.

Of course WD-40's identification of chemicals is just as poor.

[mepstein]

I've used Gibbs Brand spray lube on all the metal surfaces including the 6 fan and housing and really like the natural finish.

http://www.gibbsbrandlubricant.com/

-Harry

Never seen this or used it. But I have concerns that they only identify approximately 70% of the ingredients on the SDS. Also this is very flammable and the permissible exposure to the chemical listed are pretty low. So something that should be used with caution.

Of course WD-40's identification of chemicals is just as poor.

I used Gibbs on a bunch of parts on my six engine and trans. It not epoxy or even close but does a nice job of letting the natural look come through.

[mb911]

Fluid film is an option to..

I think I will cerakote my trans when the time comes.

[mepstein]

Beadblasted, vaporblasted and then sprayed down with acf-50. Now I have to learn how to put it together.

[Dr Evil]

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Main goodness with a confluent hard coating like epoxy is that unless you heat the trans in an oven, the porous metal will have petroleum retained that will off gas, seep, etc. The epoxy acts like a hard shell. Ive never really had issue with any method I tried, but I don't have a set up to clean the cases so I just don't. In the future, I plan to do vapor/sonic once life settles down and I invest even more into my business since it is now helping cover living expenses and not a hobby. Cool write up and I look forward to more data.

BTW, I have had many swear by Gibbs as the closest to stock and longer lasting. The Tectyl was OE and wore off shortly. Kind of silly.

[bbrock]

The Tectyl was OE and wore off shortly. Kind of silly.

I wondered about this. I have a can of Tecyl that I planned to coat mine with, but wondered how long it would last.

Available in quarts on Amazon if anyone is curious: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HUY8PY...=UTF8&psc=1

[Mblizzard]

The Tectyl was OE and wore off shortly. Kind of silly.

I wondered about this. I have a can of Tecyl that I planned to coat mine with, but wondered how long it would last.

Available in quarts on Amazon if anyone is curious: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HUY8PY...=UTF8&psc=1

Only problem with these is they remain soluble in organic solvents (gas and oil) and are susceptible to removal by hot water.

Not sure how long term they are in a dynamic environment. Mainly designed for protection in long term storage.

[jcd914]

I had always been told that the cosmoline coating the factory sprayed on, was only intended to provide protection from the salt air/corrosive environment while the vehicles were shipped overseas and that vehicles staying in Europe were not even sprayed with it.

Just stuff I was told many years ago at the dealerships I worked for.

Jim

[burton73]

I've used Gibbs Brand spray lube on all the metal surfaces including the 6 fan and housing and really like the natural finish.

http://www.gibbsbrandlubricant.com/

-Harry

Never seen this or used it. But I have concerns that they only identify approximately 70% of the ingredients on the SDS. Also this is very flammable and the permissible exposure to the chemical listed are pretty low. So something that should be used with caution.

Of course WD-40's identification of chemicals is just as poor.

10 years a bought a case of Gibbs. I had a very pickled case on number 41 and after cleaning it and sanding a piece of it to see shat it would like like I sprayed the trans with the Gibbs. Just sitting there for 5 years it all looked the same as before I shined up that small area. I even bought a NOS case from George that turned to have a spun bearing area. Different story. This is a Gibbs story. Use it on my roil up doors

Still have 2 full cans.

Bob B

[bbrock]

I had always been told that the cosmoline coating the factory sprayed on, was only intended to provide protection from the salt air/corrosive environment while the vehicles were shipped overseas and that vehicles staying in Europe were not even sprayed with it.

Just stuff I was told many years ago at the dealerships I worked for.

Jim

I'm pretty sure that's right. From what I've read, Tectyl is what the cases were coated with. It seems a little thicker and waxier (if that makes sense) than cosmoline, but similar. But it remains soft and waxy after it dries (like cosmoline) so I don't see it standing up long against road debris and suspect it would melt off with heat. I bought it after pulling my restoration project out of hibernation and being shocked at what my once shiny, but unprotected engine case looked like after indoor storage for 30 years. I spiffed the case back up as best I could and dabbed the Tectyl on with a foam brush. Looks kind of cool but I doubt it will last long after the car is back on the road.

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[Mblizzard]

My Trans cleaned and ready to go!

[DRPHIL914]

My Trans cleaned and ready to go!

mike, what did you paint it with? is that an epoxy? if so what brand?

Phil

[Mblizzard]

My Trans cleaned and ready to go!

mike, what did you paint it with? is that an epoxy? if so what brand?

Phil

While I love the epoxy paints I dislike the shiny look they give on the trans case. I used aluminum Very High Temperature VHT paint from your local Flaps.

A aluminum color caliper paint works well also. Both seem to have good adhesion and durability. Nothing like the epoxy but I just like the look better.

[DRPHIL914]

My Trans cleaned and ready to go!

mike, what did you paint it with? is that an epoxy? if so what brand?

Phil

While I love the epoxy paints I dislike the shiny look they give on the trans case. I used aluminum Very High Temperature VHT paint from your local Flaps.

A aluminum color caliper paint works well also. Both seem to have good adhesion and durability. Nothing like the epoxy but I just like the look better.

I think that is what I used last time , warning though, I got brake cleaner on it and the VHT dissolved so I just used it to clean degrease and took a lot of it off, - now I have to start over. soapy water with dawn usually works fine - I had CV axle grease all over since the CV flange had 6 openings not the 4 and the extra holes didn't get plugged- what a mess that was!

[Dr Evil]

Ive used Hammerite spray paint in the past. Its tough, has the right texture, is made for lawn equipment, cheap. If you have a garage queen, go with epoxy. If you want it to just not corrode and be safe until it forms a good layer of road grime to protect it, spray paint is fine.

[Mblizzard]

My Trans cleaned and ready to go!

mike, what did you paint it with? is that an epoxy? if so what brand?

Phil

While I love the epoxy paints I dislike the shiny look they give on the trans case. I used aluminum Very High Temperature VHT paint from your local Flaps.

A aluminum color caliper paint works well also. Both seem to have good adhesion and durability. Nothing like the epoxy but I just like the look better.

I think that is what I used last time , warning though, I got brake cleaner on it and the VHT dissolved so I just used it to clean degrease and took a lot of it off, - now I have to start over. soapy water with dawn usually works fine - I had CV axle grease all over since the CV flange had 6 openings not the 4 and the extra holes didn't get plugged- what a mess that was!

UGH. I have a set of 6-hole boots that I epoxied plated onver the 2 unheeded holes if you need them.

Will have to try the brake cleaner as I had not experienced that in the past.

[DRPHIL914]

My Trans cleaned and ready to go!

mike, what did you paint it with? is that an epoxy? if so what brand?

Phil

While I love the epoxy paints I dislike the shiny look they give on the trans case. I used aluminum Very High Temperature VHT paint from your local Flaps.

A aluminum color caliper paint works well also. Both seem to have good adhesion and durability. Nothing like the epoxy but I just like the look better.

I think that is what I used last time , warning though, I got brake cleaner on it and the VHT dissolved so I just used it to clean degrease and took a lot of it off, - now I have to start over. soapy water with dawn usually works fine - I had CV axle grease all over since the CV flange had 6 openings not the 4 and the extra holes didn't get plugged- what a mess that was!

UGH. I have a set of 6-hole boots that I epoxied plated onver the 2 unheeded holes if you need them.

Will have to try the brake cleaner as I had not experienced that in the past.

I have 2 NOS boots with 4 hole I got from 914sixer how hard is it to pull the CV and put new boot and flange on? - btw I bought these brand new from Tangernine a few years ago when I rebuilt the transmission, so the CV and shafts etc were brand new. I guess it would be easier to make some type of permanent plug than to pull the CV joint out/off and reboot them?

[Mblizzard]

You have to take the CV offthe shaft. No too hard. I always replace the clips as well.

Can send all of it to you if you need it. Can get picture tonight.