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> CHT temps, individual cylinder differences?
falcor75
post Apr 12 2018, 10:50 PM
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For those of you that are running 4 CHT sensors under the plugs, what differences do you see between the cylinders?

Whats your typical temps for each cylinder with:

A: Engine warmed up sitting at idle for a minute or two.

B: Engine warmed up, cruising at 50-55 mph in fifth gear.
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post Apr 14 2018, 12:26 PM
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I've got itbs and FI.

I've measured my airflow on the cylinders at idle and #1 does draws the most air, then #3 and #4 are slightly below and #2 the least. The problem is that I have no way of adjusting the individual cylinders, only have idle air between the banks to adjust on at idle. And once the throttle butterflies is opened the idle air really doesnt matter much.

In the FI system I have the options of adjusting the fuel and timing of individual cylinders but I've left those options unused for now.
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QUOTE(falcor75 @ Apr 14 2018, 02:26 PM) *

I've got itbs and FI.

I've measured my airflow on the cylinders at idle and #1 does draws the most air, then #3 and #4 are slightly below and #2 the least. The problem is that I have no way of adjusting the individual cylinders, only have idle air between the banks to adjust on at idle. And once the throttle butterflies is opened the idle air really doesnt matter much.

In the FI system I have the options of adjusting the fuel and timing of individual cylinders but I've left those options unused for now.


Ah, programming EFI is beyond my experience. But the ITB's should still be connected with a linkage similar to dual carbs, right?
I'm curious if you disconnect the linkage, do the airflow numbers change at all?

Re-connecting the linkage was always the trickiest part of tuning for me. It was easy to tune the individual carbs when they were unlinked, but connecting the linkage and making sure that it didn't ruin the tune was always a really fiddly job. And I always relied on my 4 channel head temp gauge to know when I had it set right.

I don't know what linkage you have, but it's possible that it's pulling the 1,2 side open more than the other side.
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QUOTE(era vulgaris @ Apr 14 2018, 10:41 PM) *

QUOTE(falcor75 @ Apr 14 2018, 02:26 PM) *

I've got itbs and FI.

I've measured my airflow on the cylinders at idle and #1 does draws the most air, then #3 and #4 are slightly below and #2 the least. The problem is that I have no way of adjusting the individual cylinders, only have idle air between the banks to adjust on at idle. And once the throttle butterflies is opened the idle air really doesnt matter much.

In the FI system I have the options of adjusting the fuel and timing of individual cylinders but I've left those options unused for now.


Ah, programming EFI is beyond my experience. But the ITB's should still be connected with a linkage similar to dual carbs, right?
I'm curious if you disconnect the linkage, do the airflow numbers change at all?

Re-connecting the linkage was always the trickiest part of tuning for me. It was easy to tune the individual carbs when they were unlinked, but connecting the linkage and making sure that it didn't ruin the tune was always a really fiddly job. And I always relied on my 4 channel head temp gauge to know when I had it set right.

I don't know what linkage you have, but it's possible that it's pulling the 1,2 side open more than the other side.


Yeah they're like carbs except for modern fuel injectors that spray underneath the butterflies. I've got Tangerines dual pulley setup with the 1-2 side being the master side where the throttle cable is connected. I'll give it another go to see if I can disconnect the throttle cable and readjust the 1-2 side shaft stop to see if it goes any lower.
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falcor75   CHT temps, individual cylinder differences?   Apr 12 2018, 10:50 PM
Porschef   :popcorn: :beer3:   Apr 13 2018, 04:19 AM
era vulgaris   I don't own the car anymore, but on my old 75 ...   Apr 13 2018, 06:38 AM
Vacca Rabite   So please, don't EVER cruise in 5th at 50-55m...   Apr 13 2018, 07:23 AM
Mark Henry   So please, don't EVER cruise in 5th at 50-55...   Apr 14 2018, 07:08 PM
falcor75   Thanks for the replies, hope some more people chim...   Apr 13 2018, 11:50 PM
era vulgaris   Dual carbs, or FI? If dual carbs, then your carbs...   Apr 14 2018, 07:29 AM
MikeM   This is a great reminder... but I've always wo...   Apr 14 2018, 09:10 AM
era vulgaris   This is a great reminder... but I've always w...   Apr 14 2018, 10:32 AM
Boomingbeetle   Warm at idle on my 2430 with stock fan/cooling and...   Apr 14 2018, 10:28 AM
Boomingbeetle   Here it is 10min driving at 3250-3500 rpm in 5th. ...   Apr 14 2018, 10:32 AM
falcor75   I've got itbs and FI. I've measured my ai...   Apr 14 2018, 12:26 PM
era vulgaris   I've got itbs and FI. I've measured my a...   Apr 14 2018, 02:41 PM
falcor75   I've got itbs and FI. I've measured my ...   Apr 15 2018, 01:12 AM
Elliot Cannon   Coming home from Rt. 66 a number of years ago, I w...   Apr 14 2018, 03:46 PM
worn   Coming home from Rt. 66 a number of years ago, I ...   Apr 14 2018, 05:33 PM
Boomingbeetle   Sorry for the sideways pictures, they are not rota...   Apr 14 2018, 04:30 PM
falcor75   Just spend the last 3 hours fiddling with the thot...   Apr 15 2018, 05:28 AM
barefoot   Just spend the last 3 hours fiddling with the tho...   Apr 16 2018, 02:12 PM
jd74914   What is your target AFR? Or do you have a screen s...   Apr 15 2018, 08:22 PM
Dave_Darling   You could see lower flows if you have some valve ...   Apr 15 2018, 09:25 PM
jd74914   Good point. Totally forgot about that.   Apr 16 2018, 05:35 AM
falcor75   Target lambda is around 0,92 (8% more fuel than la...   Apr 16 2018, 09:22 AM
falcor75   I cant get a 0,05 mm feeler gauge in so both butte...   Apr 17 2018, 03:42 AM
falcor75   I spent 20 minutes this afternoon swapping the #1 ...   Apr 18 2018, 01:37 PM
falcor75   Had a 40 minute drive today, starting with slower ...   Apr 20 2018, 08:08 AM
jcd914   After reading through this and your struggles to g...   Apr 20 2018, 11:25 AM
falcor75   No they only have one air bleed screw for each pai...   Apr 20 2018, 12:01 PM
jcd914   Too bad. Their description says there is a vacuum...   Apr 20 2018, 05:29 PM
falcor75   Yes I'm not sure there's any fault with th...   Apr 20 2018, 11:42 PM


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