How rare is a black 1972 914/4? |
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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
How rare is a black 1972 914/4? |
Debug |
May 12 2018, 07:36 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 25-February 14 From: Wellington Member No.: 17,039 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
I have been busy removing paint from my 72 1.7. When I bought it it was metallic blue, but the front and rear trunks, engine bay and cab floor were black. The car has been repainted in the past and I thought the black paint was a bit unusual. As I've removed the different layers of paint I've found that the black is on top of the original primer and the steel is virgin without any sanding marks etc. I don't have the Karmann plate so I'm going to order a birth certificate.
I was wondering if anyone knew how many were painted black for that year. |
Pat Garvey |
May 12 2018, 08:04 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
In '72 black and gold metallic were optional colors ( I recall the cost at $300). The extra cost paint was nearly 8% of the total cost of an app grp car, so few were ordered. Everyone loved the black and hated the gold metallic (except me) so you have rare color. Keep it.
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orthobiz |
May 12 2018, 09:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,754 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I believe it was a 600 upcharge on my (former) 1976. Requires better painting because of the reflective nature of black.
Paul |
Tom_T |
May 13 2018, 01:39 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
In '72 black and gold metallic were optional colors ( I recall the cost at $300). The extra cost paint was nearly 8% of the total cost of an app grp car, so few were ordered. Everyone loved the black and hated the gold metallic (except me) so you have rare color. Keep it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) ... And I liked the Gold too Pat! It was oversprayed on my 73 by the P+A dealer before I bought it from the OO in late `75, but not sure if they requested it or a prior prospective buyer or the dealer did it to help move the car - as it also had Sahara Beige over the L80E Light Ivory factory color & under the gold - all done before sold new! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Debug - check that your Karmann plate in the LF driver door jamb has the correct black code stamped on it - in case it was another color other than what you're seeing (as per my situation noted above). In addition to the colors chart at the 914 Info section on here - p914.com has good MY by MY examples of most all colors on the cars 70-76 MY, but they seem to be having web issues & aren't coming in right now on .com nor .net - but .org will get you the home page (but not the paint pages). So check back with them later. If it was black, then you're probably better off going back to it, since the original color repaints are always valued better than color changes. Being a special order color at additional cost, there were a few sent to dealers in that color - but not as many as the other "base" paint colors (same thing for the metallics). However, there are no records AFAIK that will tell you how many were black in 72 or any MY, otherwise Pat would've said so. Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
Debug |
May 14 2018, 12:40 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 25-February 14 From: Wellington Member No.: 17,039 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
Thanks for the info Tom,
That would help explain why the colour was changed. Unfortunately the Karmann plate is missing. I'm going to order a certificate of authenticity and that may clear it up. I will definitely change the colour if it proves to be the original one. Thank you to everyone that replied, the history is very interesting. I will update when I get the Cert. |
DblDog |
Jun 6 2018, 08:52 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 164 Joined: 8-February 05 From: San Rafael, CA Member No.: 3,578 Region Association: Northern California |
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ndfrigi |
Jun 6 2018, 09:38 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,926 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Orange County Member No.: 13,474 Region Association: Southern California |
Could be late 72 model since it has 2 adjustable seats and for sure a sideshift tranny!
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Debug |
Oct 18 2018, 11:29 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 25-February 14 From: Wellington Member No.: 17,039 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
Thanks for the info Tom, That would help explain why the colour was changed. Unfortunately the Karmann plate is missing. I'm going to order a certificate of authenticity and that may clear it up. I will definitely change the colour if it proves to be the original one. Thank you to everyone that replied, the history is very interesting. I will update when I get the Cert. Finally got the COA. She was black when new. I'm happy with that and will take her back to the original colour. It came with black window and sail trim and black bumpers as well so will have a real stealth look. |
Ferg |
Oct 19 2018, 11:31 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Thanks for the info Tom, That would help explain why the colour was changed. Unfortunately the Karmann plate is missing. I'm going to order a certificate of authenticity and that may clear it up. I will definitely change the colour if it proves to be the original one. Thank you to everyone that replied, the history is very interesting. I will update when I get the Cert. Finally got the COA. She was black when new. I'm happy with that and will take her back to the original colour. It came with black window and sail trim and black bumpers as well so will have a real stealth look. Very cool, will be cool to see it when done. Black with painted black bumpers instead of chrome will be unusual in a very cool way. I'm assuming they will be gloss black bumpers not satin like the standard non appearance cars that came later making it even more unique. |
JeffBowlsby |
Oct 20 2018, 08:26 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,470 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Model#473024 is a world market (non-USA), standard equipment car. Would love to see photos if its still original. http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/ModelNumbers.htm |
DblDog |
Nov 22 2018, 08:00 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 164 Joined: 8-February 05 From: San Rafael, CA Member No.: 3,578 Region Association: Northern California |
Model#473024 is a world market (non-USA), standard equipment car. Would love to see photos if its still original.
Pat, Here is a pic of the car taken in 2014...it’s had one repaint...and could use another. Do you have any more information about the designation of ‘world market (non-USA)? Hard to believe I’ve had it for 46+ years! |
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