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Dash Face plate help!, Stuck with a lighter ??? |
Moose01 |
Jun 1 2018, 09:28 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 14-November 10 From: Houston, Tx Member No.: 12,386 Region Association: None |
Hello,
After years of looking at the horrible wood added to my dash face I ripped it all off! The radio plate is or was damaged, its old a cracked. I removed the metal face plate and ordered a new "one" from a vendor. I have the correct material as well, all good right? ... I managed to remove all of the switches, not sure if I can actually reinstall them. However I cannot get the lighter out! I did remove the wiring which was a ****! The lighter is now "free", hanging in the hole, but I cannot get it out of the dash. I cut the old face plate off! How can I get the lighter housing out and then reinstall? There must be something simple I am missing?? Also the small "handle" for the glove box door is missing, any idea where I can get another one? I have tried the usual suspects for parts to no avail. I might just make one. Thanks Chris Any other 14 guys in Houston? |
gcrotvik |
Jun 1 2018, 09:56 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 16-December 09 From: Portland Oregon Member No.: 11,134 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
In the early cars, the lighter has a flat metal retaining spring(ish) clip that slides up tight to the back side of the dash. It's a bitch to get off. In the late cars (74 or so) the lighter has a spring that slides down the outside of the lighter tube and has a clip holding the spring in place near where the hot/ground leads connect. Turn the clip until it unlatches and slides off, releasing the spring and the lighter tube.
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Matty900 |
Jun 1 2018, 10:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,269 Joined: 21-February 15 From: Oregon Member No.: 18,454 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I took lots of photos of the whole removal and re installing new dash face metal on my 72. Let me know if you need anything. I will get them into a dropbox for you. Just send me a pm |
Moose01 |
Jun 1 2018, 03:28 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 14-November 10 From: Houston, Tx Member No.: 12,386 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I took lots of photos of the whole removal and re installing new dash face metal on my 72. Let me know if you need anything. I will get them into a dropbox for you. Just send me a pm A few pics would be great! PM on the way. Chris.Carbaugh@Stena.com |
Moose01 |
Jun 1 2018, 03:28 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 14-November 10 From: Houston, Tx Member No.: 12,386 Region Association: None |
In the early cars, the lighter has a flat metal retaining spring(ish) clip that slides up tight to the back side of the dash. It's a bitch to get off. In the late cars (74 or so) the lighter has a spring that slides down the outside of the lighter tube and has a clip holding the spring in place near where the hot/ground leads connect. Turn the clip until it unlatches and slides off, releasing the spring and the lighter tube. That is exactly what I need and makes perfect sense. I have a early car! Thanks!! |
worn |
Jun 1 2018, 04:03 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,127 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
In the early cars, the lighter has a flat metal retaining spring(ish) clip that slides up tight to the back side of the dash. It's a bitch to get off. In the late cars (74 or so) the lighter has a spring that slides down the outside of the lighter tube and has a clip holding the spring in place near where the hot/ground leads connect. Turn the clip until it unlatches and slides off, releasing the spring and the lighter tube. That is exactly what I need and makes perfect sense. I have a early car! Thanks!! It is a sonbisch. You can try to cut the ring with diagonal cutters. Try to avoid the plasma torch unless you really need it. Good luck! |
jcd914 |
Jun 1 2018, 05:29 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 8,684 Region Association: Northern California |
I used a 4 1/2 inch grinder with a cut-off disc to cut the retaining clip/spring/ring.
Of course my dash frame was sitting on a table in my back yard at the time.. Jim |
HansJan |
Jun 2 2018, 04:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 391 Joined: 5-April 16 From: Sugar Land TX Member No.: 19,860 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE Any other 14 guys in Houston? I'm in Sugar Land, but do not have the knowledge you need. |
xperu |
Jun 3 2018, 01:45 PM
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TEXAS Group: Members Posts: 597 Joined: 13-June 06 From: League City Texas Member No.: 6,213 Region Association: None |
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xperu |
Jun 3 2018, 01:48 PM
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TEXAS Group: Members Posts: 597 Joined: 13-June 06 From: League City Texas Member No.: 6,213 Region Association: None |
Hello, After years of looking at the horrible wood added to my dash face I ripped it all off! The radio plate is or was damaged, its old a cracked. I removed the metal face plate and ordered a new "one" from a vendor. I have the correct material as well, all good right? ... I managed to remove all of the switches, not sure if I can actually reinstall them. However I cannot get the lighter out! I did remove the wiring which was a ****! The lighter is now "free", hanging in the hole, but I cannot get it out of the dash. I cut the old face plate off! How can I get the lighter housing out and then reinstall? There must be something simple I am missing?? Also the small "handle" for the glove box door is missing, any idea where I can get another one? I have tried the usual suspects for parts to no avail. I might just make one. Thanks Chris Any other 14 guys in Houston? I am in League City just off I-45 and FM 646, 20 miles north of Galveston. Mike |
gandalf_025 |
Jun 3 2018, 02:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,434 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
I’d like to see a picture Of the “Horrible Wood Dash” that was on
your car.... I have an ”Amco” Wooden Dash that was installed by the dealer when my car was new and I could never see the car being without it.. |
porschetub |
Jun 3 2018, 03:50 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,695 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
I'am glad I had no lighter then ,PO removed it I presume its where my fuel gauge is now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) .
I really hate working behind the dash excess is pretty crap to most things. |
Moose01 |
Jun 4 2018, 11:37 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 14-November 10 From: Houston, Tx Member No.: 12,386 Region Association: None |
The picture solved the riddle for me. I forced it off, gently. I managed to save and reuse the retaining ring. I have an early 6. I then remounted the lighter by using it on the back side of the face plate vice the dash. I pulled the wires through the dash, reconnected and then installed the whole unit on to the dash with double stick tape, as per the factory. The left side was a b***h, I removed the fuse block and snaked my hand up to the backside of the dash for the light switch install. It all just worked. I am pleased with the result.
As for the wood grain dash, it could have very well been added by the dealer. I have had the car for 8 years and the previous owner something like 20 years and I know he did not add it. send me an email at Christophercarbaugh@gmail.com and I will track down a photo. I think I have one of the old dash. Thanks for the help Chris BTW, I am close to downtown. I would goto one of the PCA car weekend coffee sessions if another 914 wants to show up! |
gandalf_025 |
Jun 4 2018, 12:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,434 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
Chris
Here is a picture of the dash removed from my car. It will be going back once the car is put back together. The script on the glove box door was added by a friend years ago. This has been with the car since delivered. I've seen 2, 914-6 and 1, 914-4 copies of this. |
Moose01 |
Jun 4 2018, 02:51 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 14-November 10 From: Houston, Tx Member No.: 12,386 Region Association: None |
I took the wood off a few years ago. But it looked very similar. I can't say it was the same. I don't have any of the pieces left (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Moose01 |
Jun 18 2018, 08:36 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 14-November 10 From: Houston, Tx Member No.: 12,386 Region Association: None |
I finally managed to complete the dash. I was disappointed in the repro Radio face plate. I therefore cut out the radio bezel from the old original unit with a bandsaw. Then I took a spare new repro part and carefully removed the bezel with a Dremel tool. I then refitted the radio and the face plate. Once the radio was centered I used epoxy to mount the old bezel within the frame of the new repro part. It took me the better part of a night to do this. Another reason why restoration can be a costly process. I believe the inclusion of the original, worn bezel looks so much better.
I then buffed the very old and tired paint with my new Rupes RA polisher! What a difference, another story. Attached image(s) |
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