A Word About Windshields, or what I learned after my 3rd windshield |
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A Word About Windshields, or what I learned after my 3rd windshield |
76-914 |
Jun 18 2018, 08:58 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,494 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Before I go any further I would like to mention what a pleasure it was dealing with Richard Tankle @ Pro Source glass. He went above and beyond to make this transaction a pure delight. As you may know, this was my 3rd attempt at installing a windshield in the '70 914. The 1st one slid off the hood and onto the driveway while I was on the phone. lesson learned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) . The second windshield cracked before my eyes as it sat on the hood awaiting the install. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) One small crack magically appeared then grew into a Spider web of cracks within 1 minute. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) It lay upon blanket with the edges pointing up (think of an upright "U"). The consensus was this placed an unusual amount of stress upon an already stressed area, the edge, and that any rough or chipped part of the outer edge could cause this. Lesson learned. Before going any further I should mention I had previously installed 2 Chinese windshields w/o a hitch. Given this info I decided to order the real deal, Sekruit. The Sekruit felt heavier so I pinged Richard regarding this and here is his response:
"Glad to hear all went well Kent. Hope all fits well. The Sekurit glass is a little heavier and you will notice the edges are smoother as well. The quality is noticeably better." I would add that "noticeably better" is an understatement. Whereas the edge of Chinese glass was square cut the Sekruit is smooth, rounded and polished. You can actually feel the 2 layers of glass with your fingers on the Chinese. Not so on the Sekruit. Needless to say I will spend the extra couple of dollars next time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
mepstein |
Jun 18 2018, 09:59 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,254 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks for the info!
I will need a couple in the near future. |
marksteinhilber |
Jun 18 2018, 02:46 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 229 Joined: 18-October 12 From: Foothill Ranch, CA 92610 Member No.: 15,057 Region Association: Southern California |
Good to know! I had an original out for bodywork, laid it down on cloth on both the targa and the hood, handled it roughly with only 2 hands, and put it back in with the butyl rubber bead solo. I guess a Chinese one might have cracked the way I handled that 45 year old one!
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mepstein |
Jun 18 2018, 03:21 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,254 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I purchased a Chinese one for $50 new, threw it in to the back of my wife’s new beetle, drove 2 hours. It’s sitting in my office. No issues.
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bbrock |
Jun 18 2018, 03:56 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
So what's the proper way to handle a windshield? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I thought glass was always supposed to be resting on an edge with the edge well padded, but I don't remember where I heard or read that to know if it was a reliable source.
Richard tried to figure out a way to get me a Sekurit windshield for reasonable price but it is a $500 windshield once it is crated and shipped. Given that we joke that you can identify tourists cars around here by the lack of cracks and starbursts on the windshields, it's not worth the added expense. Even Chinese will be a $300 piece of glass, so I'd like to avoid mishaps if possible. |
ConeDodger |
Jun 18 2018, 04:30 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,575 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I bought Sekurit about 5-6 years ago. My original wasn’t that bad and went to someone else’s project. I got it from Niello Porsche with a 20% discount for my PCA membership. It was a no drama self-install. I’ve not had a bit of problem with it. As long as the original is available, I would use it. Who needs to do a job two and three times? Not worth the effort! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Larmo63 |
Jun 18 2018, 05:41 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Q: What did the windshield say to Kent on the driveway?
A: "You crack me up" |
Beach914 |
Jun 18 2018, 05:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 963 Joined: 28-March 10 From: Aliso Viejo Member No.: 11,519 Region Association: Southern California |
Very strange to hear about everyone's windshield issues. I removed a windshield by myself from a 76 to that I parted out years ago and I've been moving it around ever since. It's leaning upright in a metal storage shed on the side of my house. No cracks yet! Perhaps I should keep my mouth shut before I eat my words. My plan is to put it in my 70.
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76-914 |
Jun 18 2018, 06:33 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,494 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
That 1st windshield had been on the top ,hood, carpet, etc for 6 mo's and nary a crack. The second one was on the hood for min's before it cracked. The point I was trying to make is the OEM is far less likely to have a blemish on the outer edge, which IMHO was responsible for the weakened structure. The Sekruit's rounded edge is both uniform and feels polished. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Unobtanium-inc |
Jun 18 2018, 06:50 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,202 Joined: 29-November 06 From: New York Member No.: 7,276 Region Association: None |
I 2nd the opinion of Richard at Pro Source, I've bought from him for years, very nice guy and always down for a deal. On several occasions I've gone to MA and loaded my truck was glass.
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wes |
Jun 18 2018, 07:13 PM
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wes Group: Members Posts: 1,588 Joined: 8-December 07 From: Ukiah Ca Member No.: 8,436 Region Association: Northern California |
I used the Chinese windshield about one month later a crack showed up! Bought one from Porsche and as mentioned night and day better quality, never a problem, payed more for the quality that’s worth it.
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scallyk9 |
Jun 18 2018, 08:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 16-October 16 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Member No.: 20,499 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I've purchased two windshields from Richard at ProSource; one for my Merkur and more recently one for my 914 LE. The quality of both is excellent and I've no problems. Many thanks to Richard who also arranged group shipping to keep the costs down. coincidentally, both were shipped with Alfa Romeo windshields as we have very active clubs here in the Seattle area.
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914-300Hemi |
Jun 18 2018, 08:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,356 Joined: 7-September 06 From: San Dimas, CA Member No.: 6,794 Region Association: Southern California |
Q: What did the windshield say to Kent on the driveway? A: "You crack me up" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
ProSource Glass |
Jun 18 2018, 08:59 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 2-January 14 From: Andover, MA Member No.: 16,828 Region Association: None |
Thanks to all for the good words and a nice active group!We usually have some small group buys in the works in different regions.
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914-300Hemi |
Jun 18 2018, 09:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,356 Joined: 7-September 06 From: San Dimas, CA Member No.: 6,794 Region Association: Southern California |
I also bought a windshield from Richard at ProSource. He was great to deal with and the windshield was packed, so it would break if the box was dropped.
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ConeDodger |
Jun 19 2018, 08:47 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,575 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I also bought a windshield from Richard at ProSource. He was great to deal with and the windshield was packed, so it would break if the box was dropped. Ravi, Did you want to edit this or are you just warning us not to drop the box? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
76-914 |
Jun 19 2018, 08:53 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,494 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
I also bought a windshield from Richard at ProSource. He was great to deal with and the windshield was packed, so it would break if the box was dropped. Ravi, Did you want to edit this or are you just warning us not to drop the box? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Yea, he meant to say "wouldn't". His was packed with mine. |
Phoenix-MN |
Jun 19 2018, 09:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
Luck of the draw (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Factory Porsche windshield a few days after install
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