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> Widebody LS6 rebuild., long time 914 world car desgned and built by B. massaged and refined by Paul, now entrusted to me to rebuild and repair the front end and make my own.
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post Nov 29 2018, 12:11 AM
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Looking really good!!! I can see why the PO did the bumper mod for the radiator inlet.

Quick thought, Its possible the firewall from the white car is still off that 1/4" due to being pushed on the Dr side. You might look for ripples in the firewall and try hammer/dollying them flat. That might gain you that extra 1/8" your looking for.
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post Nov 29 2018, 12:17 AM
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Looking good, Dan!

Hey man, when this whole Club/World thing started, didn't you have some really sweet car? I vaguely remember remembering, but I just can't quite put my finger on it.
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post Nov 29 2018, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(ChrisFoley @ Nov 28 2018, 08:23 PM) *

QUOTE(dan10101 @ Nov 27 2018, 05:23 PM) *

Can someone tell me what gauge metal I'm working with?

1mm
19 ga.


Thanks Chris, I didn't even know there was such a thing.
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post Nov 29 2018, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(seanery @ Nov 28 2018, 10:17 PM) *

Looking good, Dan!

Hey man, when this whole Club/World thing started, didn't you have some really sweet car? I vaguely remember remembering, but I just can't quite put my finger on it.


No, My 914 life started in 1980 when I maried my wife and ended that stream in mid 80s when we didn't have a seat for Andyrew.

I had an 86 944 turbo that I had from 2000 til I sold it to the same Andrew.

But he helped (sic) me out by finding this project. Once it's done all will be well with the automotive world again. But, I probably have the record for the longest lurker...

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post Nov 29 2018, 12:33 AM
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that's what it was...my 1st 951 caught fire about the time club started, so I had 951 envy! LOL
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post Nov 29 2018, 12:40 AM
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You also had the el camino SS that was pretty sweet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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post Nov 29 2018, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Nov 28 2018, 10:11 PM) *

Looking really good!!! I can see why the PO did the bumper mod for the radiator inlet.

Quick thought, Its possible the firewall from the white car is still off that 1/4" due to being pushed on the Dr side. You might look for ripples in the firewall and try hammer/dollying them flat. That might gain you that extra 1/8" your looking for.


The bumper mod is a summer project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)

We looked for something. Did find a couple small ones and took care of them. Otherwise it all looks straight.

The main thing to me is that the suspension points are in the right position. If the numbers are square and close I'm happy. That said I haven't given up on getting it perfect, time will tell.

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post Nov 29 2018, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Nov 28 2018, 10:40 PM) *

You also had the el camino SS that was pretty sweet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Yeah, it was pretty sweet, but I had to give it up to get something fast... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Nov 29 2018, 03:06 AM
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This is nice!

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Nov 29 2018, 01:40 AM) *

You also had the el camino SS that was pretty sweet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 29 2018, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(dan10101 @ Nov 28 2018, 05:26 PM) *

update:

Still working on trimming and fitting.

I took many measurements of the before and after. Before on the blue car. After on the white/blue car. I'm within 1/4 inch now and hoping to get it a bit closer. Michael says it's good at 1/8". For me it depends on where that 1/8" lies. He actually was impressed with my work so far.

Right now I have it apart and working a few items as I expect this to be the last time I take it apart before putting some welds on it.

Moving the clutch pedal over 1". Maybe the brake too, but we'll see. that mounting board is hard as heck... pardon my language (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif), dulled 3 drill bits so far.
also turning it back rightside up. it was upside down before due to fitment.

Then some of the structure around the inner fender needs some work. So I'll do it "while I'm in there" and before I close it up.


I'll cut and fit the cowl piece but not final weld it until the 2 pieces come together.

Teaser Picture. Michael and I both wanted to see it with the front end on...



Here is what the front bumper mod looked like with air intake ducts for front brakes
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post Nov 29 2018, 07:37 PM
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Here is what the front bumper mod looked like with air intake ducts for front brakes
fog lights and a wing nut removable front license plate bracketAttached Image


Thanks Paul.
I'll save this for round 2..
It's a good close up picture..
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post Dec 1 2018, 07:27 AM
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QUOTE(dan10101 @ Nov 28 2018, 07:26 PM) *

update:

Still working on trimming and fitting.

I took many measurements of the before and after. Before on the blue car. After on the white/blue car. I'm within 1/4 inch now and hoping to get it a bit closer. Michael says it's good at 1/8". For me it depends on where that 1/8" lies. He actually was impressed with my work so far.

Right now I have it apart and working a few items as I expect this to be the last time I take it apart before putting some welds on it.

Moving the clutch pedal over 1". Maybe the brake too, but we'll see. that mounting board is hard as heck... pardon my language (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif), dulled 3 drill bits so far.
also turning it back rightside up. it was upside down before due to fitment.

Then some of the structure around the inner fender needs some work. So I'll do it "while I'm in there" and before I close it up.

I'll cut and fit the cowl piece but not final weld it until the 2 pieces come together.

Teaser Picture. Michael and I both wanted to see it with the front end on...





Great to see Bill's car being saved. Shoot for 3mm max ( 3 dimes) from the factory specs and you will be good to go.
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post Dec 1 2018, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Dec 1 2018, 05:27 AM) *


Great to see Bill's car being saved. Shoot for 3mm max ( 3 dimes) from the factory specs and you will be good to go.



Thanks for the confirmation Rick. .118 is close enough to .125 (1/8") which is what I was shooting for.

Thanks again for reminding me that I need to check against factory measurements and not just rely on my doner measurements as the be all end all.
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post Dec 6 2018, 06:25 PM
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Finally I think I’m ready to weld this sucker up. Well, tack weld it up. The plan is to make it solid enough to drive, but not so solid that I can’t take it back apart again. I want to install the suspension, add some weight and put it on the ground. Do the best corner balance/alignment that I can do it home and see how it goes, then if need be take it to a pro to do the same.

Here are a couple photos of the connections. Things are looking good.


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post Dec 6 2018, 06:53 PM
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I would think you are ready to go. Take it very slow so it can cool down and not warp. I have seen strong steel warp from too much heat when it cools down.

Slow and easy does it.

You got it!

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QUOTE(burton73 @ Dec 6 2018, 04:53 PM) *

I would think you are ready to go. Take it very slow so it can cool down and not warp. I have seen strong steel warp from too much heat when it cools down.

Slow and easy does it.

You got it!

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Yes, my concern as well. The first welds will be every 6" or so and jumping around a bit. Just to get it held in place, then assembly the suspension and see how it aligns. Then put some heat to it. That will be the time to get worried about warpage. Slow and steady wins the race. (well, at least this one..)
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post Dec 6 2018, 10:28 PM
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post Dec 17 2018, 10:45 PM
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Well, I wish I had an update for you, but unfortunately, my welder broke. Fortunately, Eastwood is sending out a new one. (yes a whole new welder). The drive roller quit turning, I tried to get them to troubleshoot it with me to see what I did wrong, but they just said it's a replacement situation. So, that was over a week ago. Still waiting. Wrong time of year to want something shipped quickly.

So in the meantime, I've been practicing my TIG welding with my cheap 3 in one Chinese welder. I have a long way to go before I choose TIG over MIG. FYI, the Eastwood is 10 times the quality, but the Lotos works. I usually use it for plasma cutting, but it also works as a TIG and Stick welder.

Anyway, Merry Christmas to all and remember the Reason for the Season!



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post Dec 17 2018, 11:51 PM
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Get a tank of pure argon yet for Tig welding aluminum?
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