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> Widebody LS6 rebuild., long time 914 world car desgned and built by B. massaged and refined by Paul, now entrusted to me to rebuild and repair the front end and make my own.
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post Feb 8 2019, 12:55 PM
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Hi Dan,

I want to point out one more time that Bill, that built you car offered me the pre-drilled, bent metal plate for the duel brake masters and the clutch. You can see it in my photo.

I got the shorter Willwood masters and it clears the Carrera rack. It tight but it clears the rubber bellows and all. You have a drive by wire throttle that makes it very nice. Maybe Bill bent the metal just in case he wanted to go with 3 masters.

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I already moved the clutch master over about 1.5" or so. I think there's room for 2 masters, it looks similar to your photo in size. I also have the shorter Wilwood Masters and should clear, just the clutch master points up and encroaches on the steering rack area if it's not upside down.

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post Feb 8 2019, 01:07 PM
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Dan, I took this out of my 914, gave it to a buddy, he went fancy pedals, still has this whole set up....its in sandeigo if your interested... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
@effutuo101 has them..


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post Feb 8 2019, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Feb 8 2019, 11:07 AM) *

Dan, I took this out of my 914, gave it to a buddy, he went fancy pedals, still has this whole set up....its in sandeigo if your interested... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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I just checked the price on a dual master pedal from Wilwood.
I would be interested. A couple rebuild kits would be way less option.
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post Feb 8 2019, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(dan10101 @ Feb 8 2019, 12:26 PM) *

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Feb 8 2019, 11:07 AM) *

Dan, I took this out of my 914, gave it to a buddy, he went fancy pedals, still has this whole set up....its in sandeigo if your interested... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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I just checked the price on a dual master pedal from Wilwood.
I would be interested. A couple rebuild kits would be way less option.

I know the clutch master was bad , brakes where good x2

get ahold of Chris...its cheep..I think... @effutuo101

single master like you have is just plain dangerous...
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post Feb 8 2019, 05:33 PM
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Here is what I have. The MC’s couldn’t be rebuilt (parts NLA and new ones in your choice of size are about $50.


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post Feb 10 2019, 11:58 AM
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Dan, just want you to be safe... good news you have an E brake.


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or this option;
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=312451
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QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Feb 10 2019, 09:58 AM) *

Dan, just want you to be safe... good news you have an E brake.


Thanks! You're preaching to the choir brother!

When I saw that I started thinking the original system was a single. But further investigation revealed otherwise.

effutuo101 is going to send me his pedal cluster, (your old pedals). I should be able to make that work. If not I'm definitely going to look into the second link you posted. Things are tight and if that fits then I'll give that a try. 3rd option is to play the safety card with my wife and get the house budget to fund a full on brake cluster. The bottom line is, I'm not going 150mph down the front straight with a single point of failure and I think she'll agree with me. She wants me around for a while longer.

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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) I know, the option comment , set me in motion... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge24.gif)
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) I know, the option comment , set me in motion... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge24.gif)


She wants me to do it right. (but on a budget...)

It kinda woke her up a bit when I rolled the last one...
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post Feb 10 2019, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(dan10101 @ Feb 10 2019, 12:35 PM) *

3rd option is to play the safety card with my wife and get the house budget to fund a full on brake cluster


Didn't you do that with the front end?

I mean I'm all down for it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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I am ok with skimping where you can as long as it does impact safety. However, I would categorize the pedal cluster (especially on a conversion to hydraulic clutch) with enlarged brakes a no-go and increased performance. The cost both in financial and fabrication terms to install a dedicated aftermarket, high quality pedal system is not so much that it out-weighs the risk. Think this one through before you cobble masters onto a teeners pedal assembly. Please.

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Think this one through before you cobble masters onto a teeners pedal assembly. Please.


Tony you are correct ,,but if you look at rsr pedal assembly you will see its no mystery..the pedal assy. I have shown was done by a well known fabricator in AZ...its no cobbled together piece...but your right write a check...the skies the limit...maybe you should have chimed in earlier....just saying..race on

btw it worked great for 2 other owners,,my son is a foot taller . so I made an adjustable pedal assy...
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Dan has a project on his hands...its not too late. Correct, I have not been here for awhile and have missed the "happenings" over the last 8-12 months. Obviously, no matter who is modifying and re-defining a pedal system - it still is piece used in different manner. My suggestions is simply to use a "system" that is manufactured for a singular purpose - a race style pedal system. Other than than the steering wheel and equally important - a driver has more interface with the controls than anything else. Kind of important...eh?

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true that, but if you dont know you dont know...check pelican rsr pedals ...the assy shown are not 914
i loved the issue of vw porsche ..check book Chuck..,

the reality is dual master cylinders save lives..more than a single..since 1968..this 914 should have never passed scca insp. with a single cyl....the end
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QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Feb 10 2019, 04:04 PM) *

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Think this one through before you cobble masters onto a teeners pedal assembly. Please.


Tony you are correct ,,but if you look at rsr pedal assembly you will see its no mystery..the pedal assy. I have shown was done by a well known fabricator in AZ...its no cobbled together piece...but your right write a check...the skies the limit...maybe you should have chimed in earlier....just saying..race on

btw it worked great for 2 other owners,,my son is a foot taller . so I made an adjustable pedal assy...


I like that pedal assembly. It places the clutch further left allowing me to spread my legs a bit. Cause, apparently you have to have big jewels to drive these cars. I hope to find out some day...
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QUOTE(Cracker @ Feb 10 2019, 04:14 PM) *

Dan has a project on his hands...its not too late. Correct, I have not been here for awhile and have missed the "happenings" over the last 8-12 months. Obviously, no matter who is modifying and re-defining a pedal system - it still is piece used in different manner. My suggestions is simply to use a "system" that is manufactured for a singular purpose - a race style pedal system. Other than than the steering wheel and equally important - a driver has more interface with the controls than anything else. Kind of important...eh?

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Dan,

Pictures of set up. Tony says get the reservoir with the AN fitting.


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You are correct...! I believe I was telling Chris/Tygaboy once upon a time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Pictures of set up. Tony says get the reservoir with the AN fittings.



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QUOTE(Cracker @ Feb 11 2019, 01:48 PM) *

You are correct...! I believe I was telling Chris/Tygaboy once upon a time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Pictures of set up. Tony says get the reservoir with the AN fittings.




You were telling me. Thank for that info. AM fittings = no leak

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Indeed. It is one of the retrofits I need to do on my car...!

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QUOTE(Cracker @ Feb 11 2019, 01:48 PM) *

You are correct...! I believe I was telling Chris/Tygaboy once upon a time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Pictures of set up. Tony says get the reservoir with the AN fittings.




You were telling me. Thank for that info. AM fittings = no leak

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