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> Widebody LS6 rebuild., long time 914 world car desgned and built by B. massaged and refined by Paul, now entrusted to me to rebuild and repair the front end and make my own.
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post Jul 5 2018, 04:15 PM
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I'm back in the 914 world after more than 35 years!

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I am the lucky winner of The car known as the Screamcicle and probably several other names.

It was originally built by Bill who frequented this forum.
Then bought by Paul who also was a 914 world member improved and refined this 550hp monster.

Unfortunate events left the front end damaged and in need of extensive repair.

Paul didn't want the car parted out, rather he wanted it to be purchased by someone who would bring it back to it's most recent glorious state.

Enter me... I had just sold my hit rod El Camino and finally the timing was right. Andrew sent me a note as he knew I was looking for a project. And a Hot rod 914 fit the profile. A lightweight classic car that could be autocrossed, track driven, and maybe a trip to taco Bell.

My previous 914 was a 1971 1.7 with Monza exhaust, Weber carbs, and Rivera wheels. This will be a big change. Fortunately I will have been buffered into the outlaw world by Andyrew's build over the last 15+ years. Quite excited to have Son/Father outlaw widebodys.

Many of you know that the car was on the east coast and I live on the west coast. It was picked up yesterday but the transportation company. Paul was a great help accommodateing the driver and reassuring that it would tranport just fine. I wish this company had tracking but at least this way I won't be watching it's every move as I wait the 7-10 days going coast to coast.

If you see a white 914 on a red auto transport truck. Please let me know!

I'll ad to this thread more later,. But here's a teaser picture.


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post Jul 18 2018, 12:26 AM
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post Jul 18 2018, 12:28 AM
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post Jul 18 2018, 02:54 AM
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Thanks for saving this car!

Here is the link to Bills Thread...

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=40674&st=0

And you can search for his other threads...

11.2 in the Qtr mile...

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=87867&hl=
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post Jul 18 2018, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(bulitt @ Jul 18 2018, 01:54 AM) *

Thanks for saving this car!

Here is the link to Bills Thread...

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=40674&st=0

And you can search for his other threads...

11.2 in the Qtr mile...

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=87867&hl=


EDIT. Somehow I missed that first thread. And it's always fun to read the 2nd. THANKS

I have. Thanks.
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post Jul 18 2018, 06:56 PM
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Well, I removed the torqued fiberglass front trunk lid and turned up the torsion bar on the drivers side which was completely backed off and suddenly it's not looking too bad. I think at this point it's actually driveable. Ok, maybe not very far... Yes, I'll need some sheet metal around the drivers A pillar that took a nice solid tree, and maybe some around the passenger headlight that got pushed down by another tree.

Big beefy brake calipers and rotors. Sway bar looks great, LCA are probably bent, but not much else underneath except for sheetmetal. I need to get it up on the rack to know for sure.

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post Jul 18 2018, 07:46 PM
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So cool! Glad to see it made it okay. Always a worry with transport. Especially when it get's moved rig to rig a few times. Congrats on getting it finally. Now the fun really begins. Can't wait to see it come together Dan. As soon as my car is on the road I've got to come down to see it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
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post Jul 18 2018, 07:49 PM
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So cool! Glad to see it made it okay. Always a worry with transport. Especially when it get's moved rig to rig a few times. Congrats on getting it finally. Now the fun really begins. Can't wait to see it come together Dan. As soon as my car is on the road I've got to come down to see it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)


I was hoping to have something to show you when you were cruising by. Give me a holler next time your in the vicinity. We also provide B&B for our weary traveling friends. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 18 2018, 11:40 PM
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Good candidate for getting a portapower.

Do you have a stud gun? I have your slide hammer here.

Do you have some heavy duty trees you can pull around or maybe build some pyramid structures out of heavy duty steel and bolt to the ground for anchor points for pulling the chassis out?

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Pieces you 100% need:

Front hood (Fiberglass)
Front end (Sheridan, Do you have this on order?)
930 control arms (Or possibly 914 control arms with 914 torsion bars? http://914world.com/bbs2/lofiversion/index.php?t162853.html )
Driver side A pillar section.
Drivers side headlight bucket
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post Jul 19 2018, 12:07 AM
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I placed my order in the 914 store. We'll see who can fill it, cheap...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=331775

The boss and I negotiated for a Sheridan order. I'm only holding off because I don't have anywhere to store it. I gotta get that BMW stripped and crushed.

I had some ideas for bending sheet metal. I have no shortage of trees, but I also was thinking we could use the lift. Either the posts for side to side or the arms for up and down. Maybe put some anchors in the concrete and reinforce the Ibeams for the lift a bit more solid. I think the bending might be minimal once the items that are heavily bent are replaced. (or just before they are replaced..) The measurements we took of Andrews car are pretty close other than the A-pillar pushed in and the passenger headlight bucket pushed down a couple inches. It's all fixable with flat sheet metal, but easier with some cheap (did I say cheap) replacement panels.

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post Jul 19 2018, 05:46 AM
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QUOTE(dan10101 @ Jul 19 2018, 01:07 AM) *

I placed my order in the 914 store. We'll see who can fill it, cheap...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=331775

The boss and I negotiated for a Sheridan order. I'm only holding off because I don't have anywhere to store it. I gotta get that BMW stripped and crushed.

I had some ideas for bending sheet metal. I have no shortage of trees, but I also was thinking we could use the lift. Either the posts for side to side or the arms for up and down. Maybe put some anchors in the concrete and reinforce the Ibeams for the lift a bit more solid. I think the bending might be minimal once the items that are heavily bent are replaced. (or just before they are replaced..) The measurements we took of Andrews car are pretty close other than the A-pillar pushed in and the passenger headlight bucket pushed down a couple inches. It's all fixable with flat sheet metal, but easier with some cheap (did I say cheap) replacement panels.


I would not use the lift. It was designed with the stresses setup to support a car up in the air. Putting side loads on it changes the direction of the stress, possibly weakening it for holding a car up. Personally, I wouldn't get under a car on a lift that had been used like that.

I have pulled cars out using trees before. When my nephew got hit in his Datsun 510 years ago, I pulled it out by strapping it between 2 very large Oak trees and using a come along to pull the B-pillar out. That and 2 new doors got it back on the road.
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post Jul 19 2018, 07:20 AM
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Dan -
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"tube chassis"

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post Jul 19 2018, 07:41 AM
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I would not use the lift. It was designed with the stresses setup to support a car up in the air. Putting side loads on it changes the direction of the stress, possibly weakening it for holding a car up. Personally, I wouldn't get under a car on a lift that had been used like that.

I have pulled cars out using trees before. When my nephew got hit in his Datsun 510 years ago, I pulled it out by strapping it between 2 very large Oak trees and using a come along to pull the B-pillar out. That and 2 new doors got it back on the road.


Thanks Clay.
I really don't think a lot of bending will be needed once I replace the majorly bent pieces. The rest of the numbers are really close to Andrews measurements for the most part. less than 1/2" or so. I think before I spend a lot of time on how I will bend it, i need to figure out where I need to bend it.

I'll look for the trees that might do that. I might have a few that will do. Plus a Jeep with a 9000 lb winch doubled would be 18000. That should rip it apart if the button got stuck...

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Dan -
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This is our fallback. But actually. It's just not bad enough to warrant..

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I met you at Tygaboys Fab day....

I was pleased to learn this past weekend that you brought this beast to the West Coast. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

Once done, you and Andrew will have two of the nicest wide body 914's (w/engine swaps) around.

I'm looking forward to seeing them together in the future.

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Dan-

I met you at Tygaboys Fab day....

I was pleased to learn this past weekend that you brought this beast to the West Coast. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

Once done, you and Andrew will have two of the nicest wide body 914's (w/engine swaps) around.

I'm looking forward to seeing them together in the future.

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I'm sorry I couldn't be at the BBQ, but you know it was because I was expecting any day... I enjoy your stories!
In case you can't tell, we're both pretty stoked about the whole idea.


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I couldn't help myself, I had to take it for a quick little driveway action.

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Should be lots of fun...
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Who says you cannot buy a thrill?

Laying a little rubber in a 914 V8 is great fun and you do not need to break any speed laws.

How is the radiator? No leaks?

Have fun.

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