Widebody LS6 rebuild., long time 914 world car desgned and built by B. massaged and refined by Paul, now entrusted to me to rebuild and repair the front end and make my own. |
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Widebody LS6 rebuild., long time 914 world car desgned and built by B. massaged and refined by Paul, now entrusted to me to rebuild and repair the front end and make my own. |
dan10101 |
Jan 16 2020, 06:53 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Dan: What is the height of the rear tires and what are you running it out to on the dyno? You should be using 3rd gear for pulls... Tony They are 25" give or take 1/4". I ran most of my pulls in 3rd. Mostly because it wouldn't run out to redline in 4th. I did make one run "just because" hoping for a higher number. Didn't happen. I have the 4 speed 930 with about 410/420 final drive. 4th gear would be like running a 2.74 rear gear. According to the dyno guys that should have made more HP. again, it didn't. |
Cracker |
Jan 16 2020, 06:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
What RPM are you pulling to? The guys are wrong...if you are running a 930 box 4th gear is a MASSIVE overdrive ratio (.656). That doesn't even make any sense. I ran my LS2 back in the day out in 4th gear to 6750 and the speed was about 180. Sounds like Mr. Foley was on track...
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dan10101 |
Jan 16 2020, 08:02 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
What RPM are you pulling to? The guys are wrong...if you are running a 930 box 4th gear is a MASSIVE overdrive ratio (.656). That doesn't even make any sense. I ran my LS2 back in the day out in 4th gear to 6750 and the speed was about 180. Sounds like Mr. Foley was on track... T I'm sure your right, in fact when I showed up and he asked me what gear I would run in, I figured I was in trouble. I told him 3rd BTW. We'll see what the next dyno guy says, if that ever happens. I can see on HP tuners how much torque/hp I'm making with given changes. That's all that really matters. |
Cracker |
Jan 16 2020, 09:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
Dyno's lie all the time so there is little stock given to the result BUT what did it make? If you posted it I am sorry...at what rpm did peak hp occur? Just curious...
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dan10101 |
Jan 16 2020, 09:58 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Dyno's lie all the time so there is little stock given to the result BUT what did it make? If you posted it I am sorry...at what rpm did peak hp occur? Just curious... T Well this one has a new computer and a new tuner tuning it, so it didn't make what it's supposed to. It made 430RWHP when Paul had it tuned in this configuration. On a different day, different tuner, different ECU it made 363. I'll be taking it to a pro to check my tune and see if he can make more. Then I'll take it to another dyno and see if it can make the advertised hp. Next time I'll bring the old ecu and see if it will do better with that tune. But I think it's too lean and it's a locked ECU, so I had to start over. Yes I brag about the higher number... Until I know otherwise.. |
Cracker |
Jan 16 2020, 10:05 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
Got it...its an LS6 if I remember correctly. I had a very potent 6 that was on the borderline of streetability, bad manners, surging in the lower gears - just not very pleasant short of full throttle. It made 452 - you don't want that...trust me!
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dan10101 |
Jan 16 2020, 10:40 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Got it...its an LS6 if I remember correctly. I had a very potent 6 that was on the borderline of streetability, bad manners, surging in the lower gears - just not very pleasant short of full throttle. It made 452 - you don't want that...trust me! T It's pretty mild mannered. The 2nd cam that Paul installed was detuned to make it manageable and reduce the rocker arm problems. I know lots of guys are taking box stock 6.0l and adding a big cam and getting similar results. For now, reliable and running beats monster hp. Oh, for those wondering about the 500hp claim. It's crank hp calculating drivetrain loss. 510chp * .85 = 433 whp. It's all pretty much guesswork including the 85% calculation. But, it goes fast, so that's what I care about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
dan10101 |
Jan 21 2020, 11:47 AM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I've posted another video on the repair. This time it's on measuring the cars, good and bad. I'm trying to do this in order, it's so much more fun to skip ahead to the fun stuff, and maybe we'll do some of that. Thanks Dave Darling for the documents that I used in this video. I didn't give you proper credit in the video. It is in the description, but not everyone looks at that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYXILAHer2Y...eature=youtu.be |
dan10101 |
Jan 26 2020, 10:26 AM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Another video for the Morpheus series is up.
This one is on Pulling. Using a porta power to straighten the body, somewhat. I don't know if it was necessary, but it was fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORfQN20IpIg Next up will be Cutting that's when it gets real... Andrew posted a couple Videos of his build as well. There's another post with a running thread with all the videos. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=342752 |
dan10101 |
Feb 8 2020, 10:24 AM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
A couple new videos up on the YouTube channel
First is Cutting up the Cars! AAAAHHHHH https://youtu.be/nXb4BBBK-xM It was actually a lot of fun. Next is a new build we just acquired. This is a Porsche 944 Barn Find. An amazing car we've been following for many years came up for sale at a price that couldn't be passed up. Here's the intro video on that one. https://youtu.be/R3PeMJkv_TM |
dan10101 |
Feb 21 2020, 11:03 AM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I'm still cranking out Videos.
I think they are getting better, but I'm biased. This one is on the LS6 engine noise problem. We go into a tear down of the engine and inspection. https://youtu.be/1A-SSUnTK3I I also did another video on the 1984 944 NA. That is an inspection video as well, but this time we used a borescope instead of a tear down. After being parked for 20 years it needed a thorough inspection. https://youtu.be/zTIwPCMMVyY |
FL000 |
Feb 21 2020, 08:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: 31-January 12 From: Lancaster, CA Member No.: 14,076 Region Association: Southern California |
Good job with the videos. I am sure the time to edit them is not insignificant. Sounds like you got pretty lucky with the loose rocker nut and lifter clip not causing damage (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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dan10101 |
Feb 21 2020, 08:38 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Good job with the videos. I am sure the time to edit them is not insignificant. Sounds like you got pretty lucky with the loose rocker nut and lifter clip not causing damage (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Thanks. Yes, it takes a while to make these. Plus we're trying to do 2 per week. I'm hoping at some point we can go back to 1 per week. it's like coming out of retirement. In retrospect, I probably should have done the tear down before the 1st 'race', but I got lucky the fell into a safe spot. |
Andyrew |
Feb 22 2020, 12:55 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
I want to point out that Dad edits ALL the videos including the ones on my car. The amount of time he invests in these is staggering.
Gathering the materials, combing through the hours of footage and hundreds of videos for good content, writing a script, composing audio, editing, sending it to me knowing full well I'm going to pick it apart and have him redo something 3 times, coming up with appropriate thumbnails and titles, again knowing I'm going to criticize his thumbnail and change the title after he posts it.... It's a damn good thing he loves me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
tygaboy |
Feb 22 2020, 08:55 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,244 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
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dan10101 |
Feb 22 2020, 10:26 AM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
There's a lot of love in the car world, not just for metal and fiberglass. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) And the videos would be pretty lame if you didn't fix all my great ideas. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) |
dan10101 |
Mar 22 2020, 05:01 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
So my opening event (the enduro) was cancelled. Just like everyone else's.
But I needed to do the brakes because the rear ebrakes were dragging. I had all the parts and did the rear brakes, (i was still hoping for event to happen) But within a week everything was cancelled. Well, the ebrake shoes didn't have the pins in them, so No ebrakes. I'll have to find some that work. I have a very steep driveway. Speaking of that...... Yes! Another Video! Enjoy your quarantine lockdown! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7KAW_YlgJk |
dan10101 |
May 29 2020, 08:13 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Finally another update.
Tomorrow is our first Autocross of the 2020 season. Well, unless there is a thunderstorm. But Sunday looks good. In preparation for the "season" i updated the brakes, installed new harnesses, and a few other bits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YY91bJsAzU&t=79s |
dan10101 |
Jun 28 2020, 01:37 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Finally we're rolling in 2020!
2 Track day videos One Autocross and One at the Quarter Mile! Here's the SSCC opener for 2020. The first day ended in a downpour and thunderstorms, but Sunday was nice. https://youtu.be/xE5KdQYzSvM Here's the quarter mile run. I need to work on a couple things to make this go like it should. But I'll take 12s to start with. https://youtu.be/ExosMZTI45w |
dan10101 |
Jun 29 2020, 09:36 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Can anyone recommend a replacement throttle pedal assembly that will work with the stock brake pedal assembly?
The thought of having the throttle stick at 112mph kinda got me thinking I should replace it. Besides i want a better heal toe setup. Thanks. |
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