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> Diagnosing D-Jet Problem...solution & update, All of a sudden...loss of power...
MikeInMunich
post Jul 6 2018, 08:13 AM
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Greetings once again from Munich gentlemen! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

It started with a thought and no wood to knock on, seriously! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

I was driving around Munich about 6 weeks ago and thought to myself, this car is running perfectly and needs nothing. What could go wrong? Then literally, less than a few minutes after that, it started. A light hesitation in the lower RPM range. Seemed like the car was choking a bit, or missing on once cylinder.

I was at a D-Jet workshop last year with Dr. D-Jet. See https://oldtimer.tips/de/

Volker is a great guy and knows as much about this system as anybody. He tested the vacuum on my MPS last year and informed me that it was "borderline". So that was the main culprit. I took it out, sent it to him and this year it was indeed worse and thus the main culprit. Volker disassembled it and replaced the copper diaphram. Now it's tight like new. Some may be surprised that this is possible and / or where he got a new diaphram from. He had them manufactured or perhaps, I'm not sure, manufactured them himself. PM me if you want / need one and I'll send you his email address.

So, with my restored MPS I hooked it up and, low and behold, the problem was quite the same, only about 10x worse! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)

Now, with the car immobile and Volker hundreds of km away, I'm practically on my own, with his and your advice, to try to track down the real problem.

Volker thinks that because the MPS was operating sub-optimally previous to my purchase of the car that the mechanic or the P.O. had compensated elsewhere to get the car to run properly and that now that the MPS is sending a different signal to the CPU, things are off.

More info:

Just before the problem started my milage was really bad
The CPU is the correct one for my MPS and working according to specs. Volker tested it.
Engine has about 5,000 miles on it. Was rebuilt and running GREAT.
Fuel pressure was set at 29 psi only about a year ago. I reckon it could have hardly changed on its own since then. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
The engine was originally a 1,7 but is now 2liters with a “proper FI performance Webcam” (as stated by the mech ic who rebuilt the engine)

No adjustments were made to the FI to get it to run properly. It was running excellentwith a virtually perfect idle when warm and just slightly rough for the first 3 Miles or so.

TPS plate and air temp sensor are new.

What do y'all reckon could be the culprit? What should I be testing?

I'm taking it to a place to tell them what to test, including:

Fuel Pressure
Plugs
Compression
CO value
TPS setting
Timing & dwell
search for Vacuum leaks
grounds
Valve adjustment
Fuel filter
Relais
Injectors...

What else should I have them look for?

Thanks for your input!

With best regards from what was just ranked The Most Livable City in the World by Monocle Magazine,

Mike in Munich
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MikeInMunich   Diagnosing D-Jet Problem...solution & update   Jul 6 2018, 08:13 AM
worn   I'm taking it to a place to tell them what to ...   Jul 6 2018, 08:34 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Trigger points function. Have your injectors clean...   Jul 6 2018, 09:06 AM
JamesM   It sounds like you already isolated the problem. ...   Jul 6 2018, 10:46 AM
MikeInMunich   It sounds like you already isolated the problem. ...   Jul 10 2018, 05:17 AM
Amphicar770   Had similar issue in my car. Connector to CHT was ...   Jul 6 2018, 11:22 AM
Bartlett 914   Had similar issue in my car. Connector to CHT was...   Jul 6 2018, 02:07 PM
MikeInMunich   Had similar issue in my car. Connector to CHT wa...   Jul 10 2018, 05:26 AM
76-914   Possibly the diaphragm itself if not made with the...   Jul 6 2018, 11:23 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   will the car no longer start and run at all now? ...   Jul 6 2018, 11:31 AM
saigon71   It certainly sounds like it could be an MPS issue....   Jul 6 2018, 01:09 PM
Dave_Darling   Start with compression and then move on to ignitio...   Jul 7 2018, 02:23 AM
MikeInMunich   Start with compression and then move on to igniti...   Jul 10 2018, 05:24 AM
r_towle   Not enough information. Car is stumbling at light ...   Jul 7 2018, 09:12 AM
r_towle   Djet parts MPS....100k miles, you fixed that, it r...   Jul 7 2018, 09:32 AM
MikeInMunich   Djet parts MPS....100k miles, you fixed that, it ...   Jul 10 2018, 05:22 AM
nordfisch   Hi Mike <and all others interested in this topi...   Jul 8 2018, 07:07 PM
MikeInMunich   Hi Mike <and all others interested in this top...   Jul 10 2018, 05:20 AM
Philip W.   this is not unusual, I had to re-adjust my MPS af...   Jul 10 2018, 10:24 AM
Bartlett 914   this is not unusual, I had to re-adjust my MPS a...   Jul 10 2018, 11:04 AM
Bleyseng   The MPS was adjusted back to Factory specs..... Hm...   Jul 10 2018, 12:38 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   :agree: :agree: :agree: Exactly. Every engine...   Jul 10 2018, 01:36 PM
MikeInMunich   :agree: :agree: :agree: Exactly. Every engin...   Jul 11 2018, 09:31 AM
Dr-DJet   Hi, Mike did not mention to you and to me that he...   Jul 10 2018, 03:53 PM
MikeInMunich   Hi, Mike did not mention to you and to me that h...   Jul 10 2018, 04:16 PM
Bartlett 914   Hi, Mike did not mention to you and to me that h...   Jul 10 2018, 05:06 PM
Dr-DJet   Dr=Djet It seems you took this personally. I was...   Jul 11 2018, 02:26 AM
MikeInMunich   Dr=Djet It seems you took this personally. I wa...   Jul 11 2018, 03:17 AM
MikeInMunich   Dr=Djet It seems you took this personally. I wa...   Jul 11 2018, 05:22 AM
MikeInMunich   Good links on this subject... and a number of ques...   Jul 11 2018, 04:13 AM
914_teener   So....... Guys, I.ll be in Bavaria in December c...   Jul 11 2018, 08:54 AM
MikeInMunich   So....... Guys, I.ll be in Bavaria in December ...   Jul 11 2018, 09:36 AM
914_teener   So....... Guys, I.ll be in Bavaria in December...   Jul 11 2018, 10:30 AM
MikeInMunich   Thanks Rob. No worries. Don’t skip Munich! ...   Jul 11 2018, 11:20 AM
rhodyguy   Perhaps a discussion of the engine spec is in orde...   Jul 11 2018, 09:41 AM
MikeInMunich   Perhaps a discussion of the engine spec is in ord...   Jul 12 2018, 04:21 AM
Dr-DJet   [quote name='rhodyguy' post='2628124' date='Jul 1...   Jul 13 2018, 06:57 AM
Dr-DJet   Hi, and the last puzzle piece also unmasks the li...   Jul 16 2018, 04:35 AM
MikeInMunich   Wow! :blink: Calibrating the MPS seems pret...   Jul 11 2018, 11:18 AM
BeatNavy   Wow! :blink: Calibrating the MPS seems pre...   Jul 11 2018, 11:57 AM
MikeInMunich   Update... I'm taking Volker‘s advice and wi...   Jul 16 2018, 10:36 AM
Dave_Darling   A wide-band O2 meter would be a decent way to get ...   Jul 16 2018, 11:44 AM
Philip W.   A wide-band O2 meter would be a decent way to get...   Jul 16 2018, 11:53 AM
brant   also, I wouldn't really increase fuel pressu...   Jul 16 2018, 03:28 PM
MikeInMunich   I decided to take Volker‘s (Dr. D-Jet‘s) advic...   Sep 10 2018, 03:08 PM


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