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> 914 fuel line options?, what to replace the original lines with
VintageExcellence
post Jul 10 2018, 02:46 PM
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What are you guys doing on fuel lines. I am restoring a early 914-6 with the 2 different size plastic fuel lines through the chassis. I pulled the original lines out, one broke from being brittle and the reason I wanted to change them. What options are out there?

I see stainless steel line replacements. Looks like Tangerine has a set for sale. Anything else out there?


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post Jul 10 2018, 02:53 PM
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I have a set of Tangerine lines in my 75 and they work great with no issues.
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post Jul 10 2018, 02:58 PM
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http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=110158

I bought a set from this guy^

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post Jul 10 2018, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(VintageExcellence @ Jul 10 2018, 04:46 PM) *

What are you guys doing on fuel lines. I am restoring a early 914-6 with the 2 different size plastic fuel lines through the chassis. I pulled the original lines out, one broke from being brittle and the reason I wanted to change them. What options are out there?

I see stainless steel line replacements. Looks like Tangerine has a set for sale. Anything else out there?



A 914world member has SS lines as well. I will be purchasing from him soon.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=331361&hl=

They look nice and other members that bought like them.
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post Jul 10 2018, 03:27 PM
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I have 3 sets of tangerine lines for my cars. Chris has made the lines for years and also has all the little pieces: grommets, clamps, soft line.
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post Jul 10 2018, 05:00 PM
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Tangerine, and he will also do AN fittings on the ends. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
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post Jul 10 2018, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Jul 10 2018, 01:58 PM) *


Bought few sets/pairs from Robert too and his just from SoCal only.
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post Jul 10 2018, 05:17 PM
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I used late VW plastic FI line and ferals then truck metal brake pipe @ the front,EFI hose clamps only,my original plastic hose was as new but heeded the warning from this forum...feel happier I did the replacement.
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post Jul 10 2018, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(porschetub @ Jul 10 2018, 07:17 PM) *

I used late VW plastic FI line and ferals then truck metal brake pipe @ the front,EFI hose clamps only,my original plastic hose was as new but heeded the warning from this forum...feel happier I did the replacement.

If the plastic lines are good I wouldn't worry about it.

If damaged, you welded in new floors (welding heat), or you are running high pressure for a front FI pump, then I'd use the SS lines.
With a stock location pump these lines are low pressure, only the pump to regulator FI loop is high pressure.
The truck brake pipe is OK but it should have a rolled barb, especially for high pressure.

FI clamps should be the only type used and SAE 30R9 rated FI fuel hose.

I used to say SAE 30R7 hose was OK for all the low pressure sections and carbs, but after some research on hose quality I will now only use SAE 30R9 rated FI fuel hose on all the fuel lines.
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post Jul 11 2018, 01:09 AM
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Either vendor, Tangerine or Robert (Rotary'14), are a the best choice to buy SS lines. I purchased sets for both 914s from Robert at one of the original G&R Swap Meets many years ago.
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post Jul 11 2018, 05:24 AM
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Tangerine for me too

Fitted them to my '74 last year easy install and perfect fit. Can't thank Chris enough for his his product and advise when called.

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post Jul 11 2018, 05:39 AM
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QUOTE(BPic @ Jul 10 2018, 05:01 PM) *


A 914world member has SS lines as well.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Tangerine Racing is not some foreign entity or corporation.
I've been a 914World member from the beginning. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
And I was the first to offer stainless fuel lines to the 914 community. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
The reason I have a business name and a business website is that helping other people with their 914s became my day job around 15 years ago.
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post Jul 11 2018, 08:46 AM
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Second on Tangerine's steel lines. Just installed in my six. Met Chris in the process.
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post Jul 11 2018, 09:35 AM
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This question may be heresy, but are SS lines necessary? Would regular steel lines provide a pretty long service life? There is a how-to on the bird for making fuel lines from steel brake line. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hide.gif)
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post Jul 11 2018, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Jul 11 2018, 08:35 AM) *

This question may be heresy, but are SS lines necessary? Would regular steel lines provide a pretty long service life? There is a how-to on the bird for making fuel lines from steel brake line. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hide.gif)


A more basic question is: is having and driving a 914 necessary?

If you are going to go to the trouble of updating your fuel lines (which I think is a really good idea to avoid that burnt-up car thing), the incremental cost difference between SS and mild steel lines seems trivial. Especially when reasonably priced SS lines are available sized and bent to the exact correct spec.

Please add me to the list of satisfied Tangerine customers. Chris is the best.
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post Jul 11 2018, 09:56 AM
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Happy Robert (Rotary 14) customer...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 11 2018, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Jul 11 2018, 04:39 AM) *

QUOTE(BPic @ Jul 10 2018, 05:01 PM) *


A 914world member has SS lines as well.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Tangerine Racing is not some foreign entity or corporation.
I've been a 914World member from the beginning. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
And I was the first to offer stainless fuel lines to the 914 community. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
The reason I have a business name and a business website is that helping other people with their 914s became my day job around 15 years ago.



NOOB
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Me -> (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)


I don't think any disrespect was intended by the above post. It's just nice to have options. I appreciate your contributions to this community in both knowledge and products. I'm quickly approaching the point in my father/son build where I'll be buying more parts and I'll be looking at several things on your website.

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post Jul 11 2018, 10:46 AM
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Yeah, both guys are great guys.

Chris has a myriad of cool components for our cars - and I have some of them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ...

Robert only makes the fuel line sets, and he's a local So Cal member.


Don't want to see a 'turf war' develop from this thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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post Jul 11 2018, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Jul 11 2018, 09:46 AM) *

Yeah, both guys are great guys.

Chris has a myriad of cool components for our cars - and I have some of them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ...

Robert only makes the fuel line sets, and he's a local So Cal member.


Don't want to see a 'turf war' develop from this thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)



That is why I recommended him, nothing against Chris at all....my input was based on location.... still love ya Chris! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 11 2018, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(napasteve @ Jul 11 2018, 09:52 AM) *

QUOTE(bbrock @ Jul 11 2018, 08:35 AM) *

This question may be heresy, but are SS lines necessary? Would regular steel lines provide a pretty long service life? There is a how-to on the bird for making fuel lines from steel brake line. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hide.gif)


A more basic question is: is having and driving a 914 necessary?

If you are going to go to the trouble of updating your fuel lines (which I think is a really good idea to avoid that burnt-up car thing), the incremental cost difference between SS and mild steel lines seems trivial. Especially when reasonably priced SS lines are available sized and bent to the exact correct spec.

Please add me to the list of satisfied Tangerine customers. Chris is the best.


Okay, I'm going to poke the bear again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) The problem is that when you are doing a bare metal full restoration on a budget, these trivial incremental up-charges add up to real $ in a hurry. So I try to figure out which provide real bang for buck versus just paying extra to have a knob that goes to 11. That's why when I bought brake lines, I opted for PMB's economy mild steel kit because even those lines in a well-maintained system will outlive me and the savings was substantial.

I'm not questioning the quality of the pre-bent kit options, or the wisdom of paying what is necessary for a safe fuel system. I'm just wondering what the safety and longevity of SS fuel lines vs mild steel would be. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
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