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> Is there a modern 914, Wondering if there is a 21st century equivalent
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post Jul 11 2018, 06:11 PM
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I have been wondering a lot lately if there is an equivalent of a light weight sports car like a 914 made for today’s drivers. The 914 seems to have been focused on driving, rather than comfort: my 61 Falcon was no less comfortable or optioned. I know they have to pass safety and emissions. A toybaru?
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post Jul 11 2018, 06:26 PM
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post Jul 11 2018, 06:45 PM
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Miata is probably as close as we get this side of the pond for a reasonable cost.

My fiesta ST gave me a very 914'y vibe with all the 70's colors available, punchy throttle and amazing balance.

Toybaru is similar, geared towards more of a sports car than the Fiesta with a focus more on JDM nostalgia and driver feel than speed.


The Alpha Romeo 4c spyder and Lotus Elise if were going to compare relative costs is probably as close as we can go with the Alpha close to what a modern interpretation would be due to its luxury, as the 914 wasnt a stripped down car like the lotus, it was a refined modern sports car of its time.
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post Jul 11 2018, 06:48 PM
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post Jul 11 2018, 07:22 PM
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Boxster and Cayman but they're heavier, the Lotus is about the only one that's ballpark the same weight.
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post Jul 11 2018, 07:57 PM
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yes, this is close- of course it is heavier, isn't everything now compared to then? like a '72 911 vs a 2002 911- bigger , heavier but faster! so we have a mid engined car etc.


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post Jul 11 2018, 08:42 PM
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What about the Atom, designed only to be about driving, of course the new model the 4 has tipped the scales over the $104,000 mark (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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post Jul 11 2018, 08:53 PM
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post Jul 11 2018, 09:17 PM
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post Jul 11 2018, 11:17 PM
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I think it's the Nissan 240sx.

Common upgrades:
5 lug swap for bigger brakes and better wheel selection.
Underpowered. 145hp is not enough for 2800lbs.
Great driving dynamics.
Cheap, at least until drifting took off. Now you can't find an unmolested example.
Rust problems, mostly from the rear wing and C-pillar drainage.
Easiest motor upgrade is the home market 200hp 2.0L turbo.
Other swaps.... Nissan I6, V6 and V8, Toyota I6 and V8, plus SBC and LSx.
Body kits galore.

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post Jul 12 2018, 12:09 AM
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I think the mid engine is and important part of what makes the 914 what it is. The Boxster is of the type but so much heavier. The Lotus and the Alfa are the same type of layout except for the transverse engine and trans combo but that design centers the weight even more that the longitudinal format. There's no true comparison these days - that's why we try to bring a modern vibe to our little cars. There is a type of annoying magic to the original type of restorations but the ones that are modified with modern drivetrains may be the answer with improved driveability and good manners, real heat, and real a/c. Not disparaging the original design at all - very good for the time. But if we upgrade most systems and still retain that balance and charm, we've made the modern 914.
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post Jul 12 2018, 12:44 AM
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post Jul 12 2018, 04:37 AM
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post Jul 12 2018, 04:48 AM
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post Jul 12 2018, 05:46 AM
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Ideally a "modern" 914 is mid-engine with an open top... so Lotus Elise, Alfa 4C, MR2 spyder. As for Porsche, the bargain equivalent is a 986 Boxster.

Miata is a close second if only because it has been around so long and is such a versatile platform, despite not being mid-engined. Race car. Street car. AX/DE car. Grocery getter etc. Cheap to buy and maintain. Strong aftermarket support etc.
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post Jul 12 2018, 07:07 AM
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I can say that driving a BRZ/FRS/AE86 whatever you call them now feels a LOT like driving a modern 914, even though its a front/rear setup instead of mid engine.

So much so that I have been considering picking one up.

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post Jul 12 2018, 07:57 AM
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718 Cayman.

Least expensive modern Porsche.
2.0 four cylinder boxer engine (it is turboed).
The purists turned their collective noses up at it when it came out - wasn't a real Porsche, didn't sound like a six (did they know it wasn't a six?).
Mid engine, wheels at the corners, discs all around, no place to put your pocket book.
Noisy inside because the engine in a way is inside the cabin and right behind you.
Two trunks.
MT available.
Difficult for an old man to get in/out.
Gets a lot of attention, and is faster than most of the preceding generation Boxster/Caymans. 300 hp, 20 lbs of boost. 0-60 in the 4.7 - 4.9 range.

On the other hand, it is not a targa, doesn't rust, and weighs around 3000 lbs.
Incredibly complex, takes over an hour just to get the engine cover off. For example, the fuel pump is thee phase AC.

The MR2 and Spyder were great cars, my son had one. Unfortunately, like the S2000, they don't make them any more
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post Jul 12 2018, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(walterolin @ Jul 12 2018, 09:57 AM) *

718 Cayman.

Least expensive modern Porsche.
2.0 four cylinder boxer engine (it is turboed).
The purists turned their collective noses up at it when it came out - wasn't a real Porsche, didn't sound like a six (did they know it wasn't a six?).
Mid engine, wheels at the corners, discs all around, no place to put your pocket book.
Noisy inside because the engine in a way is inside the cabin and right behind you.
Two trunks.
MT available.
Difficult for an old man to get in/out.
Gets a lot of attention, and is faster than most of the preceding generation Boxster/Caymans. 300 hp, 20 lbs of boost. 0-60 in the 4.7 - 4.9 range.

On the other hand, it is not a targa, doesn't rust, and weighs around 3000 lbs.
Incredibly complex, takes over an hour just to get the engine cover off. For example, the fuel pump is thee phase AC.



All of this..... That's why I bought one. Got the Cayman S 2.5 L Turbo 4, 350 HP

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Most of the magazines said it doesn't sound like a Porsche, I think it sounds great but I have never owned a Porsche six. Odd but a 924/944 928, Panamera, Macan, Cayanne etc. don't sound like a Porsche six either.
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post Jul 12 2018, 08:36 AM
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Cayman is a great choice, but way too civilized.

The 924/944/968 was similarly stigmatized regarding the motor (underpowered - except for the Turbo). Not mid-engine, but has phenomenal handling & balance. They are pretty cheap to buy & own, for the time being, have a huge fan base out there, and have been modified for massive power (read: LS1). Galvanized body makes rust so much less of an issue.

Lastly, these too suffer from battery box failure. Only here, the failure results in water draining onto the passenger's feet, rather than the rear wheel falling off - how's that for progress?!!.
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post Jul 12 2018, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Jul 11 2018, 04:48 PM) *

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That's the one! A true modern 914 (minus the trunk space).
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