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> Is there a modern 914, Wondering if there is a 21st century equivalent
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I have been wondering a lot lately if there is an equivalent of a light weight sports car like a 914 made for today’s drivers. The 914 seems to have been focused on driving, rather than comfort: my 61 Falcon was no less comfortable or optioned. I know they have to pass safety and emissions. A toybaru?
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While some purists gasp, just put AC in your 914

If it were not for my ice cold AC on 100 degree plus days, I probably would have replaced my 914 long ago. Rotary compressor takes minimal hit to horsepower.
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QUOTE(Amphicar770 @ Jul 14 2018, 11:32 AM) *

While some purists gasp, just put AC in your 914

If it were not for my ice cold AC on 100 degree plus days, I probably would have replaced my 914 long ago. Rotary compressor takes minimal hit to horsepower.


4 or 6? I am starting to see the wisdom of A/C in a 914—might make the difference between taking the 914 on long trips in good weather and taking something else.

As to the OP, it's a good question:

Lotus Elise: Incredible performance and linkable to the 914 in many ways, but it doesn't have the dual "touring" nature of the 914; feels more bare bones to me, in an odd way?

Alfa 4C: Size is so wonderfully right, great styling, similar top concept, but isn't a Porsche in character/nature (much like the Elise isn't) and is auto only (a deal-killer for me).

Toyota MR-2 Spyder: VERY similar to the 914 in many ways, but no trunk space and super cheap materials. Great to drive, but...somehow not quite a modern 914. Vastly underrated, however.

1997-1999 Boxster 2.5: Have to agree that these Boxsters are wonderfully close to a modern 914. Unlike the above, it's a Porsche through and through, and by that I don't mean the status-related thing, but the engineering sensibility and timelessness thing. Had a 1999 for a few years and tested all of the other variants for Excellence/Panorama/000, and only one other Boxster has ever felt like it might replace my 914 if it had to go (see below). Also had a long-term 2001 986 2.7, and if there is one I pine for another of, it's the 2.5. I'd drive the 2.5 and wonder why I kept my 914, as it did everything better and was comfy to boot. Then I'd drive the 914 on the right day and realize the 986 couldn't do what the 914 did, between its more elemental feel, smells, and sounds (and that was with the Type IV engine!). But then I'd park the 914 and be really happy to be back in the 986 after a few hours with vinyl seats and no A/C. The later Boxsters—all of them, 718 included—offer various and myriad improvements, but those first ones are very special. My brother owns my old one, with 215,000 miles on its original engine and Euro M030 suspension plus GT3 Cup control arms and some other tricks. It still sounds amazing, and pulls to redline beautifully. Some plastics are getting tired, and the paint is too, though still presentable. And then I had a funny realization: That 1999 Boxster is now older than my 1973 914 was when I got it in 1991. By that measure, the 986 has definitely worn better than my 914 had by that point. And: no rust.

2010/2011 Boxster Spyder: This is the one I'd get if I was going to replace my 914. The handling is otherworldly, as is the overall experience. The top is novel, and didn't bother me in any way. In fact, I think it added to the car in terms of engineering and experience. YMMV, but you can read more here:

https://www.excellence-mag.com/issues/182/a...se#.W0pJ8yPMwUE

http://www.excellence-mag.com/of-note/revi...ve#.W0pKFyPMwUE

https://www.excellence-mag.com/issues/196/a...st#.W0pKPiPMwUE
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worn   Is there a modern 914   Jul 11 2018, 06:11 PM
sb914   Where have you been? :poke:   Jul 11 2018, 06:26 PM
Andyrew   Miata is probably as close as we get this side of ...   Jul 11 2018, 06:45 PM
Mike Bellis   Like this?   Jul 11 2018, 06:48 PM
Mark Henry   Boxster and Cayman but they're heavier, the Lo...   Jul 11 2018, 07:22 PM
Philip W.   yes, this is close- of course it is heavier, isn...   Jul 11 2018, 07:57 PM
914forme   What about the Atom, designed only to be about dri...   Jul 11 2018, 08:42 PM
davesprinkle   MR2 Spyder   Jul 11 2018, 08:53 PM
HalfMoon   MR2 Spyder Very much agree!   Jul 13 2018, 08:08 AM
Andyrew   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.kin...   Jul 11 2018, 09:17 PM
Chris914n6   I think it's the Nissan 240sx. Common upgrad...   Jul 11 2018, 11:17 PM
Dave_Darling   I think it's the Nissan 240sx. Modern?? Th...   Jul 13 2018, 05:32 PM
mgp4591   I think it's the Nissan 240sx. Modern?? T...   Jul 14 2018, 12:42 AM
mgp4591   I think the mid engine is and important part of wh...   Jul 12 2018, 12:09 AM
worn   I think the mid engine is and important part of w...   Jul 12 2018, 12:40 PM
Mueller   Alpine A110?   Jul 12 2018, 12:44 AM
Perry Kiehl   Boxster   Jul 12 2018, 04:37 AM
Beebo Kanelle   For me the closest equivalent is the Toyota MR2 Sp...   Jul 12 2018, 04:48 AM
Racer   Ideally a "modern" 914 is mid-engine wit...   Jul 12 2018, 05:46 AM
Vacca Rabite   I can say that driving a BRZ/FRS/AE86 whatever you...   Jul 12 2018, 07:07 AM
Movin6   That was my son's vote, for the first car he b...   Jul 15 2018, 09:37 AM
walterolin   718 Cayman. Least expensive modern Porsche. 2.0 f...   Jul 12 2018, 07:57 AM
Olympic 914   718 Cayman. Least expensive modern Porsche. 2.0 ...   Jul 12 2018, 08:06 AM
theer   Cayman is a great choice, but way too civilized. ...   Jul 12 2018, 08:36 AM
krazykonrad   Like this? That's the one! A true mod...   Jul 12 2018, 10:41 AM
Philip W.   Like this? That's the one! A true mo...   Jul 12 2018, 10:50 AM
Rand   While I love the Cayman it's not a targa. I...   Jul 12 2018, 10:48 AM
burton73   No brainer on this. Boxster. Ask anyone that has o...   Jul 12 2018, 11:20 AM
worn   No brainer on this. Boxster. Ask anyone that has ...   Jul 12 2018, 12:32 PM
era vulgaris   No brainer on this. Boxster. Ask anyone that has ...   Jul 12 2018, 12:57 PM
Philip W.   No brainer on this. Boxster. Ask anyone that has...   Jul 13 2018, 06:05 PM
914 7T3   No brainer on this. Boxster. Ask anyone that has ...   Jul 15 2018, 03:47 PM
Coondog   Here’s the only modern 914 I care to drive.   Jul 12 2018, 12:54 PM
GregAmy   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.f...   Jul 12 2018, 02:00 PM
914forme   [url=https://www.factoryfive.com/818/818s/][img]h...   Jul 12 2018, 09:14 PM
Valy   This.   Jul 12 2018, 11:12 PM
flmont   Coondog,..what were your Numbers on that Treadmill...   Jul 12 2018, 03:26 PM
Rand   An argument could be made for the 918. Yep, mid en...   Jul 12 2018, 03:28 PM
billh1963   An argument could be made for the 918. Yep, mid e...   Jul 14 2018, 06:04 AM
SKL1   Had an Elise for a few years- wish I still had it....   Jul 13 2018, 07:20 PM
Amphicar770   While some purists gasp, just put AC in your 914 ...   Jul 14 2018, 12:32 PM
horizontally-opposed   While some purists gasp, just put AC in your 914 ...   Jul 14 2018, 01:13 PM
boxsterfan   Acura NSX   Jul 14 2018, 09:25 PM
914forme   NSX - Forgot all about them, as did most people, e...   Jul 15 2018, 05:47 AM
My 914   I think that although the Boxster is the most mode...   Jul 15 2018, 12:06 PM
thelogo   I dont know about modern 914 thats not really poss...   Jul 15 2018, 03:33 PM
worn   Wow! I love all the things that have come out...   Jul 15 2018, 07:13 PM
horizontally-opposed   NSX was a ground-breaking car...essentially a Ferr...   Jul 15 2018, 10:26 PM
914forme   :agree: As much as it pains me to say so :agree: ...   Jul 16 2018, 09:48 AM
My 914   I don't know..... Maybe on paper they're...   Jul 17 2018, 07:03 PM
76-914   Modernize your 914 and bring it into the 21st Cent...   Jul 18 2018, 02:27 PM
Philip W.   Tesla roadster - essentially a Lotus body, super h...   Jul 18 2018, 08:43 PM


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