 WOT, but still a bit in the family, Anyone know about lowering a Audi 4000 Coupe? Similar B2 dasher/fox |
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| Mark Henry |
 Sep 13 2018, 04:55 PM
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that's what I do!  Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada  |
Teenhulk my 17 yr/old son realizes that his 914 project is at least 3-5 years from completion but wanted a car now.
I found him a real nice condition 1982 Audi coupe, 5 cylinder. I believe it's a B2, same but upgraded VW dasher? Like to lower it a few, bilsteins, don't want to kill the ride, don't want to bag it. just something well sorted, firm...you know like a well sorted 914. Even I don't like the rears, they are pretty weak, car sits nose high like a stock 914. 4X100 wheel pattern so any VW, honda, hyundai, chevy cobalt, etc etc., rim will fit with the right offset. Lots of cheap choices for rims. Any suggestion from the collective? Steer me in the right direction. I've asked over on the vortex forum, I'm guessing that's the best source? The ad for the car he bought, https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/markham...gationFlag=true Attached image(s) 
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| Mueller |
Sep 13 2018, 05:02 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None 
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| Beebo Kanelle |
Sep 13 2018, 05:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Houston, Texas Member No.: 15,177 Region Association: Southwest Region
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just make sure the injection system is up to snuff. That's the only problem I ever had.
I believe the ride was raised to accommodate headlight/bumper height requirements. there should be compatible suspensions available to give it the European spec ride height. |
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| Mark Henry |
Sep 13 2018, 05:12 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Poor high school kid who works at Timmy's, if it wasn't for dad's loan company he wouldn't be able to afford the suspension mods, let alone a quattro body kit.
Way too nice of a car to kit anyways. |
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| Mark Henry |
Sep 13 2018, 05:18 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(Beebo Kanelle @ Sep 13 2018, 07:06 PM)  just make sure the injection system is up to snuff. That's the only problem I ever had. I believe the ride was raised to accommodate headlight/bumper height requirements. there should be compatible suspensions available to give it the European spec ride height. The car is in very good condition, I've been driving it for a couple days. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Just a few odds and sods to make it better, shifter bushings, engine/trans mounts, wiper blades, etc. Owned since 1989 by a obsessive compulsive east european car mechanic. Never winter driven, my son is the 3rd owner. |
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| r_towle |
Sep 13 2018, 05:45 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,705 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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DONK that car!
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| Mark Henry |
Sep 13 2018, 06:16 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(r_towle @ Sep 13 2018, 07:45 PM) DONK that car! Tempting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) NOT (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) But the high ride and small tires almost makes it look like it is. Even I would do something about the stance. Everyone says it looks like a Delorean, really it's a small german tank....3500lbs. |
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| 90quattrocoupe |
Sep 13 2018, 09:04 PM
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Nice car. I had an 84 in white. The 1st wife got it in a divorce. Another story.
There is a guy that knows a lot about these cars. His name is Dan Garza. Sorry, but the best way to find him is on Facebook. If you have or you son has a Facebook account, you can usually find him on a couple of pages. Small Chassis Audi Pre-95 Small Chassis Audi There are a few peoples on these pages and they could help you. Been a while since I had mine, but I was running Konis and springs. Oh yeah, the car weighs less than 3000lbs. Greg W. |
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| 90quattrocoupe |
Sep 13 2018, 09:19 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 208 Joined: 4-November 16 From: Long Beach, CA. Member No.: 20,561 Region Association: Southern California |
A couple of things.
The Dasher/Audi Fox are considered B1 cars. The CGT is more like the Quantum. In Europe the Dasher is the same as the B1 Passat and Quantum was a B2 Passat. I am not following you, but you won't get much out of the VW Vortex Fox page. I have one of those cars also. If you decide to up grade the front brakes, this car has the same brake carrier bolt pattern as the later years 4k/Quantum/VW Fox/VW Scirocco cars. Your brakes are probably 239X20. You can do an easy upgrade to 256X20. Send my a PM and I can send you pictures and stuff. Greg W. |
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| Montreal914 |
Sep 13 2018, 09:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,808 Joined: 8-August 10 From: Claremont, CA Member No.: 12,023 Region Association: Southern California
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Very nice car! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
914 project car and nice Audi Coupe, nice way to start (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
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| Mark Henry |
Sep 13 2018, 09:53 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(90quattrocoupe @ Sep 13 2018, 11:19 PM) A couple of things. The Dasher/Audi Fox are considered B1 cars. The CGT is more like the Quantum. In Europe the Dasher is the same as the B1 Passat and Quantum was a B2 Passat. I am not following you, but you won't get much out of the VW Vortex Fox page. I have one of those cars also. If you decide to up grade the front brakes, this car has the same brake carrier bolt pattern as the later years 4k/Quantum/VW Fox/VW Scirocco cars. Your brakes are probably 239X20. You can do an easy upgrade to 256X20. Send my a PM and I can send you pictures and stuff. Greg W. I know nothing about these cars. I appreciate the advice. I'll send you a PM |
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| theer |
Sep 13 2018, 10:02 PM
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Checkout www.audizine.com, audiworld.com for forums. Quattroworld, too.
The 5 cylinder motor is fantastic. 2bennett is an Audi tuner, also sells used parts. Look at blauparts.com for maintenance type parts. |
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| euro911 |
Sep 13 2018, 11:27 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,878 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California
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Reminds me of my '80 Scirocco (that got T-boned by a full-size Bronco in the mid-80's) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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| Mark Henry |
Sep 14 2018, 07:05 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(theer @ Sep 14 2018, 12:02 AM) Checkout www.audizine.com, audiworld.com for forums. Quattroworld, too. The 5 cylinder motor is fantastic. 2bennett is an Audi tuner, also sells used parts. Look at blauparts.com for maintenance type parts. cool I'll check them out. One thing I don't understand is what the "in the know" guys call this car (B2, a80...???) seems it must have crossed many model lines. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| Front yard mechanic |
Sep 14 2018, 07:26 AM
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Hate to be a bummer but that is really old car for a seventeen year old. Air bags, and a kickin sound system, plus reliability is in order (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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| anderssj |
Sep 14 2018, 08:59 AM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,735 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Sep 14 2018, 09:05 AM) QUOTE(theer @ Sep 14 2018, 12:02 AM) Checkout www.audizine.com, audiworld.com for forums. Quattroworld, too. The 5 cylinder motor is fantastic. 2bennett is an Audi tuner, also sells used parts. Look at blauparts.com for maintenance type parts. cool I'll check them out. One thing I don't understand is what the "in the know" guys call this car (B2, a80...???) seems it must have crossed many model lines. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) audifans.com is another possibility. Scott Mockrey used to run a website ("sjmautotechnik" that had great info on the 5 cylinder engines, especially the FI)---not sure if he's still around. Anderson Motorsports near the Twin Cities (MN) used to be good source of suspension bits and pieces. |
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| 914werke |
Sep 14 2018, 09:50 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 11,208 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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That is an earlier (quad headlight) B2 80/81 car.
I owned a later (87) 4KCSQ which I wish I still had. I never liked the coupe styling. I dealt with Scott at SJM a lot, but not in a few yrs now after losing my UrS6 Avant to the Ex. The 2.2L 10V w/CIS is dead reliable if maintained. Not much in terms of upgrades other than a 10V (or 20V~!) turbo swap. The B3 coupe quattro was the bomb! Unless you could find one of the few RS2's produced. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Sorry I cant help much re suspension advice as the 4kCSQ was the winter car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Mark Henry |
Sep 14 2018, 10:30 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(Front yard mechanic @ Sep 14 2018, 09:26 AM) Hate to be a bummer but that is really old car for a seventeen year old. Air bags, and a kickin sound system, plus reliability is in order (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Well I guess he has to sell off his 914 project too. rolleyes.gif He's a careful driver, almost all country roads and small towns, already badly wiped out an ATV and found out he doesn't like getting hurt. He's careful, already stated the obvious that he's having troubles judging distances etc. Slowing down too early at stops, corners etc. I see him safer in a 3000+ german tank than a chevy cobalt, civic, etc and everyone we looked at in price range was a POS. That said he was hooked on this as soon as he saw it. I had to spot him 1.5K, but it's his summer work money and he's paying me back. He was looking at bugs, his buddies are all into oddball/old cars. I've taken him to bug shows since he was a toddler. His best friend every family member has a show/summer car. Even the grandma has a 40's chev P/U, mom a 38 ford rumble seat, both chevy 350's, sorted, etc. They are always taking my kid with them to car shows since he was in grade 1. Most gearheads in Canada have a summer car, winter car and strive for a cool weekend car. |
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| Mark Henry |
Sep 14 2018, 10:31 AM
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| Mark Henry |
Sep 14 2018, 11:12 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(90quattrocoupe @ Sep 13 2018, 11:04 PM) Nice car. I had an 84 in white. The 1st wife got it in a divorce. Another story. There is a guy that knows a lot about these cars. His name is Dan Garza. Sorry, but the best way to find him is on Facebook. If you have or you son has a Facebook account, you can usually find him on a couple of pages. Small Chassis Audi Pre-95 Small Chassis Audi There are a few peoples on these pages and they could help you. Been a while since I had mine, but I was running Konis and springs. Oh yeah, the car weighs less than 3000lbs. Greg W. Messaged Dan Garza hopefully he'll reply, I found this is it written by you? https://www.diyauto.com/manufacturers/volks...-90quattrocoupe A job like this works for me, but I bet this is for '83-, I've lowered VW aircooled, 914 conversion and welded in a couple mustang front ends. I can mod suspension bits but I don't want crazy, I want something that just bolts to the car. |
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