Starting issue, 1976 2.0 fuel injected |
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Starting issue, 1976 2.0 fuel injected |
RolinkHaus |
Sep 23 2018, 06:21 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 21-July 18 From: Noblesville, IN Member No.: 22,330 Region Association: None |
What does it mean when the car only starts with the throttle fully pressed?
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TheCabinetmaker |
Sep 23 2018, 07:22 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
It's flooded
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RolinkHaus |
Sep 23 2018, 07:47 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 21-July 18 From: Noblesville, IN Member No.: 22,330 Region Association: None |
What would make you constantly flood?
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RolinkHaus |
Sep 23 2018, 07:48 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 21-July 18 From: Noblesville, IN Member No.: 22,330 Region Association: None |
The car has sat for several years.
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nditiz1 |
Sep 23 2018, 07:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,177 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Leaky Injector
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RolinkHaus |
Sep 23 2018, 08:02 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 21-July 18 From: Noblesville, IN Member No.: 22,330 Region Association: None |
No fuel leaks found.
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ClayPerrine |
Sep 23 2018, 10:06 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,410 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Leaky cold start injector.
It's in the intake plenum next to the oil filler. |
TheCabinetmaker |
Sep 23 2018, 10:08 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Not that you can see! Have you pulled the injectors to verify that? The cold start valve can get stuck open too, or a failed Thermo tine switch.
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RolinkHaus |
Sep 23 2018, 10:16 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 21-July 18 From: Noblesville, IN Member No.: 22,330 Region Association: None |
Thanks I’ll check
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Tom_T |
Sep 25 2018, 01:37 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
Contrary to my esteemed colleagues above, I'd say that it's because you're starting it according to the Porsche instructions in the owners manual.
Here's a [pic of the 73 MY manual, but the 76 2L D-jet works the same, so your 76 manual should be the same. . It took me a while to adjust to not doing this when I got my 85 BMW E30 325e, after a decade of press & hold until started/running with my 914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Sep 25 2018, 01:40 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,816 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
maybe a bad head temp sensor check points gap /dwell compression and valve adjust though
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ctc911ctc |
Sep 25 2018, 02:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
Wow, it is on page 7 of my 1970 Owners Manual - same instructions. Stomp on the gas and then grind.
My cars have all started without any 'accelerator pump' antics, thought that's what EFI was all about???? Interesting point that Tom put forward..... Contrary to my esteemed colleagues above, I'd say that it's because you're starting it according to the Porsche instructions in the owners manual. Here's a [pic of the 73 MY manual, but the 76 2L D-jet works the same, so your 76 manual should be the same. . It took me a while to adjust to not doing this when I got my 85 BMW E30 325e, after a decade of press & hold until started/running with my 914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
ctc911ctc |
Sep 25 2018, 03:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 890 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
OOooops - page 11
Wow, it is on page 7 of my 1970 Owners Manual - same instructions. Stomp on the gas and then grind. My cars have all started without any 'accelerator pump' antics, thought that's what EFI was all about???? Interesting point that Tom put forward..... Contrary to my esteemed colleagues above, I'd say that it's because you're starting it according to the Porsche instructions in the owners manual. Here's a [pic of the 73 MY manual, but the 76 2L D-jet works the same, so your 76 manual should be the same. . It took me a while to adjust to not doing this when I got my 85 BMW E30 325e, after a decade of press & hold until started/running with my 914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
TheCabinetmaker |
Sep 25 2018, 03:34 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
I must agree with Tom. I've never seen that in print but have heard about it. I've never started my car that way. I just reach in the window, set brake, put in neutral, and start it. That's a sure way to flood it.
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Olympic 914 |
Sep 25 2018, 03:58 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,662 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States |
Great info. I have to do this on mine also, and I had chalked it up to not having the FI totally dialed in. it being a 2056 and different cam.
It still doesn't like to idle nice when cold though, but after a mile or two it warms up enough to idle. I'm fine with it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
RolinkHaus |
Oct 7 2018, 05:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 21-July 18 From: Noblesville, IN Member No.: 22,330 Region Association: None |
Update:
New plugs, plug wires,cap/rotor, cylinder head temp sensor. When I try to start it, properly, fuel is coming out of the cold start valve, which has new gaskets??? |
TheCabinetmaker |
Oct 7 2018, 07:24 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Bypass the cold start valve. Like i said before, it's flooded.
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TheCabinetmaker |
Oct 7 2018, 07:27 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Great info. I have to do this on mine also, and I had chalked it up to not having the FI totally dialed in. it being a 2056 and different cam. It still doesn't like to idle nice when cold though, but after a mile or two it warms up enough to idle. I'm fine with it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) You need to readjust the mps for the added chamber volume. |
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