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CV Joints, Available again? |
914_teener |
Jan 3 2019, 03:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,193 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
I have decided I am just going to use lobro type 1 CVS and just machine the gasket area .. It will be pretty straight forward and fairly inexpensive.. BTDT Not quite that easy, the CV material is hard as hell. Might be easier to send it to a crank grinder and have them grind the recess in. A sharp carbide tool bit will cut them just fine. The body is only moderately hard, and the ball track area is flame hardened. Today I assembled driveshafts with four of the modified Type 1 joints that Chris marketed in the past. The modifications were done beautifully. They're going in my project car with a fresh 2.0 6 cyl. I hope the reports of early wear prove wrong. Has anyone ordered or purchased the available 914 6 assemblies ? I don't know if there is any "early" wear or not. I haven't taken them apart yet. I can only report that without the recess of the gasket they will sling grease without sealing them really well. I could be that the "early" wear is caused by the grease being slung out....causing early wear. Since you have a set by Chris with the recess....should be good to go...don't look back and drive it like you stole it. |
brant |
Jan 3 2019, 05:37 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,607 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I have decided I am just going to use lobro type 1 CVS and just machine the gasket area .. It will be pretty straight forward and fairly inexpensive.. BTDT Not quite that easy, the CV material is hard as hell. Might be easier to send it to a crank grinder and have them grind the recess in. A sharp carbide tool bit will cut them just fine. The body is only moderately hard, and the ball track area is flame hardened. Today I assembled driveshafts with four of the modified Type 1 joints that Chris marketed in the past. The modifications were done beautifully. They're going in my project car with a fresh 2.0 6 cyl. I hope the reports of early wear prove wrong. Has anyone ordered or purchased the available 914 6 assemblies ? I don't know if there is any "early" wear or not. I haven't taken them apart yet. I can only report that without the recess of the gasket they will sling grease without sealing them really well. I could be that the "early" wear is caused by the grease being slung out....causing early wear. Since you have a set by Chris with the recess....should be good to go...don't look back and drive it like you stole it. I’m having early wear out Not a grease problem Machined Sealed And twice vw the wear of stock in a hard use situation (so far) Fresh grease frequently |
914_teener |
Jan 3 2019, 06:56 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,193 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
I have decided I am just going to use lobro type 1 CVS and just machine the gasket area .. It will be pretty straight forward and fairly inexpensive.. BTDT Not quite that easy, the CV material is hard as hell. Might be easier to send it to a crank grinder and have them grind the recess in. A sharp carbide tool bit will cut them just fine. The body is only moderately hard, and the ball track area is flame hardened. Today I assembled driveshafts with four of the modified Type 1 joints that Chris marketed in the past. The modifications were done beautifully. They're going in my project car with a fresh 2.0 6 cyl. I hope the reports of early wear prove wrong. Has anyone ordered or purchased the available 914 6 assemblies ? I don't know if there is any "early" wear or not. I haven't taken them apart yet. I can only report that without the recess of the gasket they will sling grease without sealing them really well. I could be that the "early" wear is caused by the grease being slung out....causing early wear. Since you have a set by Chris with the recess....should be good to go...don't look back and drive it like you stole it. I’m having early wear out Not a grease problem Machined Sealed And twice vw the wear of stock in a hard use situation (so far) Fresh grease frequently Now I'm curious....I hate re-greasing those things but this has peaked my interest. I probably don't have more than 6K miles on those things, no track time but spirited driving. |
rgalla9146 |
Jan 4 2019, 03:57 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,544 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
I just learned something interesting.
I have a 914 6 CV that's missing it's balls. (no rude comments please) So why not substitute some from a new modified Type 1 that I have on hand ? Cheap fix right ? Guess what ?.... the balls are bigger... and not in the direction that you'd guess. The balls in a VW CV are 17.44mm diameter. In the 914 6 they're 15.84 I'm no engineer but that doesn't seem right. You'll be comforted to know that 914 and 914 6 CVs have the same size balls. Attached thumbnail(s) |
mepstein |
Jan 4 2019, 07:10 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,224 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I just learned something interesting. I have a 914 6 CV that's missing it's balls. (no rude comments please) So why not substitute some from a new modified Type 1 that I have on hand ? Cheap fix right ? Guess what ?.... the balls are bigger... and not in the direction that you'd guess. The balls in a VW CV are 17.44mm diameter. In the 914 6 they're 15.84 I'm no engineer but that doesn't seem right. You'll be comforted to know that 914 and 914 6 CVs have the same size balls. I’m no bearing expert but smaller might mean more of them and thus more contact area on the race. At least it works that way with bikes. |
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