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It’s 2018 where are the big brake kits, DIY big brake kits |
widebody914 |
Oct 8 2018, 12:42 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 26-December 17 From: Mesa,AZ Member No.: 21,727 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Hey everyone just trying to reach out and get some diy big brake kit ideas. It’s 2018 and I don’t get why our options are still big reds or switch over to 911. I’m looking to do a willwood setup on a 914-4 suspension. Has anyone done this? Trying to save some coin and time.
Thanks, Trevor (group5 v8 914) |
horizontally-opposed |
Oct 8 2018, 08:34 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,430 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
There was a kit to adapt the 911 rotor (and more) with four-lug 914 wheels a while back, but I am not sure it was put into production? Also trying to remember if the Bremtek setup could be had in four or five lug?
While the stock brakes do work pretty well on a stock or mostly stock car when they're in good shape, I can see where a Wilwood kit would be appealing if for no other reasons than unsprung weight (the stock steel calipers are boat anchors), sticking with four-lug wheels, and not having to convert the rear end. Downside if you want to do an upgrade in the rear is the parking brake. It's either a second caliper or no parking brake...or complete conversion to 911 rear brakes...which gets you back to a five-lug conversion up front. |
mepstein |
Oct 8 2018, 08:37 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,142 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
There was a kit to adapt the 911 rotor (and more) with four-lug 914 wheels a while back, but I am not sure it was put into production? Also trying to remember if the Bremtek setup could be had in four or five lug? While the stock brakes do work pretty well on a stock or mostly stock car when they're in good shape, I can see where a Wilwood kit would be appealing if for no other reasons than unsprung weight (the stock steel calipers are boat anchors), sticking with four-lug wheels, and not having to convert the rear end. Downside if you want to do an upgrade in the rear is the parking brake. It's either a second caliper or no parking brake...or complete conversion to 911 rear brakes...which gets you back to a five-lug conversion up front. Or a 914-6 rear caliper. Rotors could be re-drilled to 4 lug. |
horizontally-opposed |
Oct 8 2018, 08:41 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,430 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Or a 914-6 rear caliper. Rotors could be re-drilled to 4 lug. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) But still a boat anchor. Of course, then there's the trailing arm... It surprises me that no one has done an Elephant Racing style trailing arm for the 914, one with better mounts, better adjustments, and less weight. Between that and the caliper, I wonder how much unsprung weight might be lost in the rear alone. Which raises the question of how much weight might be saved up front with the GT3-style system now available, as well. There's a lot of steel in the 914's suspension. It works, but... |
mepstein |
Oct 8 2018, 09:40 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,142 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Or a 914-6 rear caliper. Rotors could be re-drilled to 4 lug. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) But still a boat anchor. Of course, then there's the trailing arm... It surprises me that no one has done an Elephant Racing style trailing arm for the 914, one with better mounts, better adjustments, and less weight. Between that and the caliper, I wonder how much unsprung weight might be lost in the rear alone. Which raises the question of how much weight might be saved up front with the GT3-style system now available, as well. There's a lot of steel in the 914's suspension. It works, but... If we are adding lightness into the equation, the 914 trailing arm only weighs a couple pounds. It just looks chunky. Eric Shea/PMB made an aluminum 914-6 caliper. It only got a luke warm reception (914 guys are cheap) but weighs half the steel caliper. I'm sure you could track down a pair. Go with the alloy 3' Brembo caliper on the front (3" struts are lighter than 3.5) the 911 alloy crossmember and you have a killer lightweight big brake setup that bolts on. |
914forme |
Oct 11 2018, 12:07 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Or a 914-6 rear caliper. Rotors could be re-drilled to 4 lug. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) But still a boat anchor. Of course, then there's the trailing arm... It surprises me that no one has done an Elephant Racing style trailing arm for the 914, one with better mounts, better adjustments, and less weight. Between that and the caliper, I wonder how much unsprung weight might be lost in the rear alone. Which raises the question of how much weight might be saved up front with the GT3-style system now available, as well. There's a lot of steel in the 914's suspension. It works, but... If we are adding lightness into the equation, the 914 trailing arm only weighs a couple pounds. It just looks chunky. Eric Shea/PMB made an aluminum 914-6 caliper. It only got a luke warm reception (914 guys are cheap) but weighs half the steel caliper. I'm sure you could track down a pair. Go with the alloy 3' Brembo caliper on the front (3" struts are lighter than 3.5) the 911 alloy crossmember and you have a killer lightweight big brake setup that bolts on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Anyone have a set of the rear alloy calipers they want to sell? I have the fronts down. |
mepstein |
Oct 11 2018, 12:33 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,142 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Or a 914-6 rear caliper. Rotors could be re-drilled to 4 lug. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) But still a boat anchor. Of course, then there's the trailing arm... It surprises me that no one has done an Elephant Racing style trailing arm for the 914, one with better mounts, better adjustments, and less weight. Between that and the caliper, I wonder how much unsprung weight might be lost in the rear alone. Which raises the question of how much weight might be saved up front with the GT3-style system now available, as well. There's a lot of steel in the 914's suspension. It works, but... If we are adding lightness into the equation, the 914 trailing arm only weighs a couple pounds. It just looks chunky. Eric Shea/PMB made an aluminum 914-6 caliper. It only got a luke warm reception (914 guys are cheap) but weighs half the steel caliper. I'm sure you could track down a pair. Go with the alloy 3' Brembo caliper on the front (3" struts are lighter than 3.5) the 911 alloy crossmember and you have a killer lightweight big brake setup that bolts on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Anyone have a set of the rear alloy calipers they want to sell? I have the fronts down. When Eric came out with the alloy rears, I was finding rear Ferrari 308 calipers for $250-400 a pair and sending to Eric got the GT conversion. That supply dried up and Eric got tired of selling the alloys near cost. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Even the alloy brembo fronts have gone up a lot. |
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