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> It’s 2018 where are the big brake kits, DIY big brake kits
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post Oct 8 2018, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 8 2018, 12:05 PM) *

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Trying to save some coin and time.


I have Boxster calipers on all 4 corners.
Best brakes i ever had on the 914 and trust me, i tried a lot of different setups.
The adapters as well as the calipers are readily available.


I'm not sure how reinventing the wheel fits into "saving money and time". There are already plenty of options out there and a good portion of those are (still) affordable.
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Well I guess I’m just trying not to have to switch to a 911 strut and stick with the 914 4 struts. That’s where I’m trying to save money I already have the struts so looking for options for my 914 4 struts. Just surprised no one has made hubs for these yet.

Ideally I would like to do willwood lite 4 pot calibers with willwood top hats and a vented rotor..if I can just find a hub to work with I think everything else will fall into place.
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post Oct 8 2018, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Oct 8 2018, 07:03 AM) *

It's not necessary to change the whole front suspension.
Get struts with 3.5" caliper mounts and your brake options open up.
While your at it install Turbo tie rods.


Yeah but what strut options do I have just 914-6 and 911.?
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post Oct 8 2018, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(widebody914 @ Oct 8 2018, 10:23 AM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 8 2018, 12:05 PM) *

QUOTE(widebody914 @ Oct 7 2018, 11:42 PM) *
Trying to save some coin and time.


I have Boxster calipers on all 4 corners.
Best brakes i ever had on the 914 and trust me, i tried a lot of different setups.
The adapters as well as the calipers are readily available.


I'm not sure how reinventing the wheel fits into "saving money and time". There are already plenty of options out there and a good portion of those are (still) affordable.
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Well I guess I’m just trying not to have to switch to a 911 strut and stick with the 914 4 struts. That’s where I’m trying to save money I already have the struts so looking for options for my 914 4 struts. Just surprised no one has made hubs for these yet.

Ideally I would like to do willwood lite 4 pot calibers with willwood top hats and a vented rotor..if I can just find a hub to work with I think everything else will fall into place.



I guess you didn't look at my post well enough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Hubs are available that go directly only the /4 strut. 4 lug and 5 lug.

The downside is that the 911 struts have larger spindles with bigger bearings something that should be important with those huge tires that are going to put additional stresses on the stock parts.

Bearing ID diameters....

914 spindles:
⌀1.147"x.580"W
⌀.6875"x.575"W


911 spindles:
⌀1.250"x.660"W
⌀.750"x.655"W

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post Oct 8 2018, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(widebody914 @ Oct 8 2018, 01:23 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 8 2018, 12:05 PM) *

QUOTE(widebody914 @ Oct 7 2018, 11:42 PM) *
Trying to save some coin and time.


I have Boxster calipers on all 4 corners.
Best brakes i ever had on the 914 and trust me, i tried a lot of different setups.
The adapters as well as the calipers are readily available.


I'm not sure how reinventing the wheel fits into "saving money and time". There are already plenty of options out there and a good portion of those are (still) affordable.
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Well I guess I’m just trying not to have to switch to a 911 strut and stick with the 914 4 struts. That’s where I’m trying to save money I already have the struts so looking for options for my 914 4 struts. Just surprised no one has made hubs for these yet.

Ideally I would like to do willwood lite 4 pot calibers with willwood top hats and a vented rotor..if I can just find a hub to work with I think everything else will fall into place.

Because for the cost of a custom set of hubs, you can buy off the shelf 911 parts (struts and hubs) that will bolt on and fit a wide range of calipers and like you said, have bearings that are better suited to wider tires.
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post Oct 8 2018, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Oct 8 2018, 12:52 PM) *

QUOTE(widebody914 @ Oct 8 2018, 10:23 AM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 8 2018, 12:05 PM) *

QUOTE(widebody914 @ Oct 7 2018, 11:42 PM) *
Trying to save some coin and time.


I have Boxster calipers on all 4 corners.
Best brakes i ever had on the 914 and trust me, i tried a lot of different setups.
The adapters as well as the calipers are readily available.


I'm not sure how reinventing the wheel fits into "saving money and time". There are already plenty of options out there and a good portion of those are (still) affordable.
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Well I guess I’m just trying not to have to switch to a 911 strut and stick with the 914 4 struts. That’s where I’m trying to save money I already have the struts so looking for options for my 914 4 struts. Just surprised no one has made hubs for these yet.

Ideally I would like to do willwood lite 4 pot calibers with willwood top hats and a vented rotor..if I can just find a hub to work with I think everything else will fall into place.



I guess you didn't look at my post well enough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Hubs are available that go directly only the /4 strut. 4 lug and 5 lug.

The downside is that the 911 struts have larger spindles with bigger bearings something that should be important with those huge tires that are going to put additional stresses on the stock parts.

Bearing ID diameters....

914 spindles:
⌀1.147"x.580"W
⌀.6875"x.575"W


911 spindles:
⌀1.250"x.660"W
⌀.750"x.655"W


Thank you yeah I didn’t read it right haha my bad
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post Oct 8 2018, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Oct 8 2018, 08:24 AM) *

Stock brakes work rather well.


I'm with rhodyguy on this. With rebuilt stock calipers, new 17MM master cylinder and new Porterfield pads the stock brakes are really awesome.
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post Oct 8 2018, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(saigon71 @ Oct 8 2018, 02:56 PM) *

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Oct 8 2018, 08:24 AM) *

Stock brakes work rather well.


I'm with rhodyguy on this. With rebuilt stock calipers, new 17MM master cylinder and new Porterfield pads the stock brakes are really awesome.


I don’t doubt that one bit but I have a V8 914 and 18inch wheels. I need more stopping power unfortunately.
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post Oct 8 2018, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 8 2018, 10:05 AM) *

QUOTE(widebody914 @ Oct 7 2018, 11:42 PM) *
Trying to save some coin and time.


I have Boxster calipers on all 4 corners.
Best brakes i ever had on the 914 and trust me, i tried a lot of different setups.
The adapters as well as the calipers are readily available.


I'm not sure how reinventing the wheel fits into "saving money and time". There are already plenty of options out there and a good portion of those are (still) affordable.
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Andy,

Do you have Boxster or Boxster "S" calipers? What size is your master?

Thanks,
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post Oct 8 2018, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(andys @ Oct 8 2018, 03:45 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Oct 8 2018, 10:05 AM) *

QUOTE(widebody914 @ Oct 7 2018, 11:42 PM) *
Trying to save some coin and time.


I have Boxster calipers on all 4 corners.
Best brakes i ever had on the 914 and trust me, i tried a lot of different setups.
The adapters as well as the calipers are readily available.


I'm not sure how reinventing the wheel fits into "saving money and time". There are already plenty of options out there and a good portion of those are (still) affordable.
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Andy,

Do you have Boxster or Boxster "S" calipers? What size is your master?

Thanks,
Andys


I think he has boxster only and a 23mc (from what I read doing research throw his postings) could be wrong tho
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post Oct 8 2018, 07:48 PM
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I’ve only used base Boxster calipers for the big brake conversions. I use the Stompski adaptors and he told me to use base calipers and Carrera rotors. The Calipers are getting harder to find and going up in price.
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post Oct 8 2018, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Oct 8 2018, 07:41 AM) *

It surprises me that no one has done an Elephant Racing style trailing arm for the 914, one with better mounts, better adjustments, and less weight.


Someone did in the 80s or 90s. They made a steel-tube trailing arm, with camber and toe adjustment at the hub end rather than the chassis end. They didn't sell; they were too expensive and the actual gains didn't seem to be that great.

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post Oct 9 2018, 01:02 AM
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If the six banger front spindles are larger diameter than the 4's seems to me like all that needs to be done is to machine bearing races that have the id for the 4 spindle and the od of the 6 race....unless there is also a length difference
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) ................it would be nice to see pictures of your car(s) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

I am trying to figure out how to post pictures.. if you have Instagram look me up @anigav_480


Holy Crap Trevor, what a crazy 914! Great job Engineering that Beast!
You shouldn't have any problems figuring out bigger brakes...
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My idea of the ultimate 914 brake/suspension setup.


911 GT3 front suspension with coilover shocks and Boxster Brakes

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.elephantracing.com-1143-1539108861.1.png)

Boxster rear suspension complete with brake calipers.

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Go full race bushings on the Boxster rear suspension.


Very adjustable and capable of handling a lot of HP.
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Oct 9 2018, 11:14 AM) *

My idea of the ultimate 914 brake/suspension setup.


911 GT3 front suspension with coilover shocks and Boxster Brakes

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.elephantracing.com-1143-1539108861.1.png)

Boxster rear suspension complete with brake calipers.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/image.superstreetonline.com-1143-1539108861.2.jpg)

Go full race bushings on the Boxster rear suspension.


Very adjustable and capable of handling a lot of HP.


Very cool idea, Clay—and GT3 Cup control arms are a direct bolt in for the rear, which offer a lot of precision with more than enough compliance to be nice on the street.

Raise the upper damper mounts for the rear with custom coil-overs and...that would be a very trick setup. And there are a fair number of dead 986s out there. For the very adventurous out there, the GT4 stuff is even nicer....and set up to work with a gearbox with a limited slip diff, axles, and gears good for 385 hp with 300+ lb-ft of torque in a 3000+lb car with sticky 295s out back. If all could be adapted, it might be the ultimate setup for a 914 with a lot of engine. Might have to "downgrade" the brakes, however, as everything is set up for 20-inch wheels. 19s fit over the standard GT4 brakes; 18s are trickier with the knuckles...making the 986 (which used 16s) or 987 era (with 17s) a better fit.
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Hopefully they cost a tad less than these

https://www.twinsparkracing.com/shop/rsr-br...3-3-wheel-hubs/

or these

https://www.zuffenhaus.us/product/2-8rsr-brake-kit/
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QUOTE(saigon71 @ Oct 8 2018, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Oct 8 2018, 08:24 AM) *

Stock brakes work rather well.


I'm with rhodyguy on this. With rebuilt stock calipers, new 17MM master cylinder and new Porterfield pads the stock brakes are really awesome.


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But that's too simple and easy! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE(widebody914 @ Oct 8 2018, 09:56 AM) *

Ok sorry I should have been more descriptive of my build I have a 914 group5 wide body with a Chevy v8 and I also have a 5x114.3 bolt pattern and my wheels are BBS LMs 18x11 front 18x14 rear. As soon as I figure out how to post pictures I will. If anyone has Instagram my name is @anigav_480

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Ok sorry I should have been more descriptive of my build I have a 914 group5 wide body with a Chevy v8 and I also have a 5x114.3 bolt pattern and my wheels are BBS LMs 18x11 front 18x14 rear. As soon as I figure out how to post pictures I will. If anyone has Instagram my name is @anigav_480

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That car has been running stock /4 brakes for how many years? WTF?




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