1970 Porsche 914-6 conversion autocross project |
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1970 Porsche 914-6 conversion autocross project |
zephyrblau |
Oct 14 2018, 01:19 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 30-June 14 From: castro valley, ca. Member No.: 17,567 Region Association: None |
*** SOLD ****
***PLEASE rescue me from this horrible, awful man and put me back on the road where I belong! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) *** 12/13/18 added pix of parts that will be included. pic doesn't show it well, but there are *5* rocker panels. *** reduced to $2750 *** PLEASE NOTE UPDATED DESCRIPTION ! *** original VIN tag located *** *** sale reconfigured. price adjusted accordingly*** *** year model corrected *** VIN 4702910686 1970 914-6 conversion autocross project. No engine, rebuilt side shift trans (claimed...no paper work), second side shift trans (claimed good), Solid tub w/ no rust through, converted to 5 lug, 911 front suspension, fuel cell, boxed rockers, cookie cutter wheels. lots more parts available. Clear title. registered non-op. $4,000 B/O [attachmentid=670 865][attachmentid =678767] Attached image(s) |
billh1963 |
Oct 14 2018, 01:21 PM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,402 Joined: 28-March 11 From: South Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
Lots of goodies here for someone on the west coast!
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gcrotvik |
Oct 14 2018, 02:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 16-December 09 From: Portland Oregon Member No.: 11,134 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
That’s a late model shell, not a 70. It looks like a 75-76. Something is not right here.
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2mAn |
Oct 14 2018, 08:20 PM
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trying to see how long I can go without a 914 Group: Members Posts: 486 Joined: 14-November 13 From: Westchester (Los Angeles) Member No.: 16,644 Region Association: Southern California |
bummer... I would love the seats and the fuel cell... no interest in selling stuff separately?
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mepstein |
Oct 14 2018, 08:29 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,142 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
That’s a late model shell, not a 70. It looks like a 75-76. Something is not right here. Sure isn't an early dash.The jack mount is later in the rear trunk and the car even comes with bubs. Attached image(s) |
Blue6 |
Oct 14 2018, 10:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,026 Joined: 3-October 13 From: SoCal Member No.: 16,470 Region Association: Southern California |
Zephyrblau,
I’m interested. Can you send pics of the the vin’s please. |
zephyrblau |
Oct 15 2018, 11:40 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 30-June 14 From: castro valley, ca. Member No.: 17,567 Region Association: None |
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Retroracer |
Oct 15 2018, 02:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 606 Joined: 7-July 13 From: Bend OR Member No.: 16,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Zephyrblau, I’m interested. Can you send pics of the the vin’s please. Blue6, as requested. any other place(s) I should look ? Actually yes - there should be the matching chassis number stamped into the metal near the RHS front strut mounting. I believe there should be the Karmann build number stamped into the floor of the trunk too. Also, sticker and Karmann stamp on the inside of the drivers door. FYI. - Tony |
GaroldShaffer |
Oct 15 2018, 08:48 PM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,617 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None |
Actually yes - there should be the matching chassis number stamped into the metal near the RHS front strut mounting. I believe there should be the Karmann build number stamped into the floor of the trunk too. Also, sticker and Karmann stamp on the inside of the drivers door. FYI. - Tony (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) What does the vin number say in the front trunk picture (circled in red)? I bet it starts 475 or 476 In the rear trunk pics the jack holder (in red circles) indicate a late car. The two other areas with the arrows above them are from a 75 / 76 car with big bumpers. Based on the other items such as big bumpers, side dash vents, brick style pattern on door cards & dash face, what looks like a fuel pump opening behind the fuel cell in the front trunk picture, seat adjuster rake on passener side floor and more. This is a late car These are not items that are easily swapped between model years. Attached image(s) |
gcrotvik |
Oct 16 2018, 09:01 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 16-December 09 From: Portland Oregon Member No.: 11,134 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Oopsie, looks like a VIN swap. The front trunk VIN tag should be on the right headlight bucket for a 70-74. 75 and 76’s has an additional tag where the tag is now. On a 75 76 the VIN tag should be on the first bulkhead to the right side. No pictures of the stamped VIN on the top of the right inner wheel housing?
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mepstein |
Oct 16 2018, 09:20 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,142 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
It's not the worst thing in the world. I found out mine was swapped by the "restoration shop" that sold it to me. I've never had an issue but I wish I had known up front.
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larryM |
Oct 17 2018, 12:01 AM
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emoze Group: Members Posts: 891 Joined: 1-January 03 From: mid- California Member No.: 65 Region Association: Northern California |
It's not the worst thing in the world. I found out mine was swapped by the "restoration shop" that sold it to me. I've never had an issue but I wish I had known up front. X2 - it's just a conversion project - so why the hell does anyone care about the year of the shell? what you're buying is what you see - with the benefit of a TITLE & appropriate VIN tags - - consider yourself lucky if it gets you to owning a streetable exempt 3.2 sixer free of legal hassles with DMV et al i knew the P.O. and this car 'way back, i actually drove it when it was a 4-cyl when he was preparing to take it apart & i b'ot the very good driving sideshifter out of it back then (still have that on the shelf - we can never have enuf good spares. eh?) (i agree that the alu trunk tag is misplaced - that's kinda goofy) see this www.914world.com/bbs2/sources/action_public/pop_helpvin.html y'd have to pull the windshield to discover if that tag was moved - - i do not believe the P.O. ever replaced the windshield, so i'll guess he b'ot the car the way you see - P.O. went thru a bunch of 914's back in the day (when we were all still buying 'em for $500 running) - as a '70, it's exempt from SMOG in CA, which it would NOT not have been as a '75, and still not as a '76 titled conversion, - surprised it has been in kept hiding & unfinished for so long |
zephyrblau |
Oct 17 2018, 02:24 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 30-June 14 From: castro valley, ca. Member No.: 17,567 Region Association: None |
yep... 475 prefix number. I ran the stamped number through NMVTIS and received the response;
Sorry, VIN #4752904898 was not found. |
zephyrblau |
Oct 17 2018, 03:10 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 30-June 14 From: castro valley, ca. Member No.: 17,567 Region Association: None |
as a '70, it's exempt from SMOG in CA, which it would NOT not have been as a '75, and still not as a '76 titled conversion, - surprised it has been in kept hiding & unfinished for so long hello Larry, agreed. I was a student in the ROP program & ran a few cars through that facility. then life got in the way of more important things. eventually the county closed the body shop part of the program. these cars are WAY fun to drive & even more so w/ a larger engine. IIRC even as a '75 it is smog exempt. |
zephyrblau |
Oct 17 2018, 05:28 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 30-June 14 From: castro valley, ca. Member No.: 17,567 Region Association: None |
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GaroldShaffer |
Oct 17 2018, 06:57 PM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,617 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None |
It's not the worst thing in the world. I found out mine was swapped by the "restoration shop" that sold it to me. I've never had an issue but I wish I had known up front. X2 - it's just a conversion project - so why the hell does anyone care about the year of the shell? what you're buying is what you see - with the benefit of a TITLE & appropriate VIN tags - - consider yourself lucky if it gets you to owning a streetable exempt 3.2 sixer free of legal hassles with DMV et al It's not the end of the world, but swapping vin tags is illegal and here in Indiana If (and I say IF) you are caught with this you will lose the car and maybe some $$ in fines or more. Now who is really going to check, probably no one. This is still a good deal for the car & parts. |
mepstein |
Oct 17 2018, 07:01 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,142 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
It's not the worst thing in the world. I found out mine was swapped by the "restoration shop" that sold it to me. I've never had an issue but I wish I had known up front. X2 - it's just a conversion project - so why the hell does anyone care about the year of the shell? what you're buying is what you see - with the benefit of a TITLE & appropriate VIN tags - - consider yourself lucky if it gets you to owning a streetable exempt 3.2 sixer free of legal hassles with DMV et al It's not the end of the world, but swapping vin tags is illegal and here in Indiana If (and I say IF) you are caught with this you will lose the car and maybe some $$ in fines or more. Now who is really going to check, probably no one. This is still a good deal for the car & parts. I don’t have any issues with my car (I didn’t know about the swap until 30 years after I purchased the car) but it’s always better to know those things up front, before you purchase. |
zephyrblau |
Oct 18 2018, 12:50 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 30-June 14 From: castro valley, ca. Member No.: 17,567 Region Association: None |
per an offline request I did find this related to the fuel cell.
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Chi-town |
Oct 18 2018, 02:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
The cell is expired (lasts 5 years) and would have to go back to Fuel Safe for a new bladder and re certification.
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larryM |
Oct 20 2018, 11:23 PM
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emoze Group: Members Posts: 891 Joined: 1-January 03 From: mid- California Member No.: 65 Region Association: Northern California |
re: VIN #4752904898 was not found
not surprising - during those years CA-DMV simply dropped cars out of the database after something like 5 yrs of non-registration there are more than a few threads here about that - anything that was previously dropped out was not re-entered & essentially never existed (unless one is dumb enuf to walk in with a 15+ yr old CA title on which the reg fees have not been paid for 10++ yrs) many of us resurrected said "lost" derelict cars by throwing away the original Title & doing "application for new registration" process with a VIN Certification which avoided paying back fees & penalties - iirc it's only been within maybe the past 8 yrs or less that the new DMV database has begun maintaining a database of cars out of registration for a longer period (maybe forever?) - seeking back fees of course (a practice maybe coupled with CA-BAR's desire to rid the streets of smog-exempt anythings) |
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