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> RPMs very slow to drop
Tdskip
post Oct 16 2018, 03:40 PM
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Hi guys-hoping to get some sage advice here on what's going on. I am picking at the 1973 1.7 L D-jet car and when I was test driving her today she did not want to return back to idle.

When you accelerate in first gear up to about 3500 or 4000 RPM and then take your foot off the gas the RPMs stay at the same level or climb slightly and then only slowly drift down.

She starts fine and will idle at about 1000 RPM, air bleed screw is close to all the way in.

There is an aftermarket return spring on the throttle assembly but appears to have the right amount of tension. I took the air cleaner off and when I manually actually the throttle it appears to settle down faster than when I do it with the gas pedal.

The pedal does not appear to be binding on the carpet or interior trim.

Any ideas for me?

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post Oct 16 2018, 08:22 PM
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Suspects:
- Air leaks. This includes the possibility that the throttle plate isn't closing correctly. Or that the decel valve is hanging open. Or some other air leak.
- Timing. Advanced timing will raise your idle; if the timing sticks advanced it will keep the RPMs up, then when the timing drops so will the RPMs.

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post Oct 17 2018, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Oct 16 2018, 09:22 PM) *

Suspects:
- Air leaks. This includes the possibility that the throttle plate isn't closing correctly. Or that the decel valve is hanging open. Or some other air leak.
- Timing. Advanced timing will raise your idle; if the timing sticks advanced it will keep the RPMs up, then when the timing drops so will the RPMs.

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First, thanks to all for the ideas.

Dave - I did find that when I was operating the throttle by hand at one point it seemed to close (but with RPMs still too high) but then it further "snapped" back to closed.

Is there a lip or ridge in there that gets worn or gunked up?

I'll try disconnecting the accelerator pedal and then cable to see if that makes a difference.

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QUOTE(Tdskip @ Oct 17 2018, 12:17 PM) *

Is there a lip or ridge in [the throttle body] that gets worn or gunked up?


There wasn't one when the throttle body was new. There may be one now... The shaft may also have worn the bore that it rides in out of round. And there could be other potential issues that cause that behavior.

Start isolating things. Disconnecting the throttle pedal will remove that from the equation. If you still have sticking, disconnect the throttle cable at the throttle body end. If you still have sticking, the problem is in the throttle body assembly.

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Tdskip   RPMs very slow to drop   Oct 16 2018, 03:40 PM
76-914   Hi guys-hoping to get some sage advice here on wh...   Oct 16 2018, 03:56 PM
EdwardBlume   Is the accelerator pedal returning easily? Does it...   Oct 16 2018, 03:58 PM
andreic   1) You must be having some pretty bad leaks if you...   Oct 16 2018, 04:35 PM
Tdskip   1) You must be having some pretty bad leaks if yo...   Oct 17 2018, 01:18 PM
forrestkhaag   CARBS..... :poke:   Oct 16 2018, 04:57 PM
adolimpio   Cable binding?   Oct 16 2018, 07:15 PM
Dave_Darling   Suspects: - Air leaks. This includes the possibil...   Oct 16 2018, 08:22 PM
Tdskip   Suspects: - Air leaks. This includes the possibi...   Oct 17 2018, 01:17 PM
Dave_Darling   Is there a lip or ridge in [the throttle body] th...   Oct 17 2018, 04:00 PM
black73   Worn throttle cable.   Oct 17 2018, 04:53 AM
jim_hoyland   Just went through the same thing; I dry-lubed the ...   Oct 17 2018, 05:10 AM
914_teener   Hi guys-hoping to get some sage advice here on wh...   Oct 17 2018, 01:15 PM
TravisNeff   Put a few drops of oil on your distributor felt, t...   Oct 17 2018, 01:47 PM
porschetub   Put a few drops of oil on your distributor felt, ...   Oct 17 2018, 06:26 PM
Tdskip   Good tip on the distributor-I'll have to check...   Oct 17 2018, 06:53 PM
76-914   Good tip on the distributor-I'll have to chec...   Oct 17 2018, 08:13 PM
Tdskip   Good morning. Just a quick update that I did the t...   Oct 18 2018, 12:13 PM
76-914   Then the tube for the throttle cable is severed or...   Oct 18 2018, 01:30 PM
adolimpio   I had a similar problem recently. The ends of th...   Oct 18 2018, 03:37 PM
worn   I had a similar problem recently. The ends of t...   Oct 18 2018, 05:15 PM
Tdskip   Thanks for the great info and discussion. Any rec...   Oct 19 2018, 05:37 AM
DRPHIL914   Thanks for the great info and discussion. Any re...   Oct 19 2018, 08:09 AM


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