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post Oct 19 2018, 01:12 PM
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For what it's worth: I was talking to my friend/mechanic yesterday and he mentioned that he was 0 for 2 ordering rod bolts for a six he is rebuilding. They don't fit in the holes and are unacceptable. He spoke to Pelican about it. The manufacture is, get this, "OEM." Other parts are manufactured by "Germany." He surmised that they are Chinese manufacturers and we are being mislead by the name. He finally ordered some from Germany, the country.
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post Oct 19 2018, 01:45 PM
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You can always use ARP bolts
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post Oct 19 2018, 02:03 PM
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On Pelican, OEM is a brand name. I'm sure a bunch of it is Chinese sourced.

Sadly the supply chain has become a crap shoot these days. NOBODY is double checking the product before it's retailed.
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post Oct 19 2018, 02:18 PM
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It's cheaper to take the return than labor $ for QCing the items. Failure/unacceptability rate is built in. Either you're lucky or not. What does Pelican get for a solo bolt?
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post Oct 19 2018, 03:01 PM
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You can buy directly from Porsche if you want “oem” parts. It’s not all perfect but much more reliable.
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post Oct 19 2018, 07:21 PM
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When I was building my 3.0 /6 engine I bought a #8 "german" bearing from a known supplier that was so out of spec (OS) on the ID it was laughable.
I ended up reusing my old #8 as it was in spec.
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post Oct 19 2018, 07:47 PM
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Buy ARP and be done with it.
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Buy ARP and be done with it.
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post Oct 20 2018, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Oct 19 2018, 05:47 PM) *

Buy ARP and be done with it.

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For rods yes plus they are reusable if you like..
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post Oct 23 2018, 03:08 PM
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I was just looking on line at some other parts place and there, too, is OEM parts.

I think this is a deliberate fraud. I think Pelican and others are part of the fraud and should be required to indicate where the part was manufactured.
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post Oct 23 2018, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(jfort @ Oct 23 2018, 05:08 PM) *

I was just looking on line at some other parts place and there, too, is OEM parts.

I think this is a deliberate fraud. I think Pelican and others are part of the fraud and should be required to indicate where the part was manufactured.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Even the major supplier we buy from just lists it as OEM - because that's the name for the company, not it's actual origin. It would be similar to me calling my company "Real Original Parts" and having them made in China.
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post Oct 23 2018, 03:39 PM
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Good to know, I always assumed they were Original Equipment Manufacturer without the Porsche Tax.
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post Oct 23 2018, 08:32 PM
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That term is 'oem supplier'.

But then with all the failed leveraged buyouts of European manufactures during the Great Recession, name brand parts might now be from China too.
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post Oct 24 2018, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE(GeorgeRud @ Oct 23 2018, 05:39 PM) *

Good to know, I always assumed they were Original Equipment Manufacturer without the Porsche Tax.

Some are, if you notice that the part number is ground off it was actually the Porsche logo that's been removed.

For a long time 911 production numbers were so low the scammers ignored the 911, with porsche cars and parts becoming more valuable I think we're seeing the counterfeiters becoming more prevalent.

When I can't get factory parts I try for known names, mahle, sachs, etc.
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Next thing someone will be selling fake cheese under the name "Real" Cheese.

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post Oct 24 2018, 07:57 AM
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shall we call them Velveta?
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post Oct 24 2018, 09:09 AM
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post Oct 24 2018, 09:41 AM
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Unfortunately, this is a problem that is proliferating the supply chain. You've seen this with another supplier I shall not name. Which by the way lists themselves as a supplier to Porsche. Wouldn't be surprised it's them.
They spend money on PR to try to make it sound good, but you can be the judge there.
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post Oct 24 2018, 09:48 AM
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I always assumed uro & oem were the same people or get their product from the same manufacturer. Their pricing and parts look the same.
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They might be, as the Chinese will sell to anyone who pays. We've been able to find sources for some of their parts.
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